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|Mitch| 10-13-2013 07:44 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 538116)
You're assuming it only comes down to that. I would love to think this is our last loss, but suppose it isn't? We could win in Seattle and still finish behind them. Would you not look back at this game and say "if only we had finished that game"?

It's not rocket science what I'm explaining to you.

You're assuming that the Seahwawks won't lose again either. A lot of football left and the fact still remains that this team has out-played everyone's expectations so far.

5-1 going into the bye with the loss to the AFC is pretty damn good, not like we were going to finished out undefeated

hagan714 10-13-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 538115)
Cant double every receiver though, greer should have been able to hold his own, brady would find holes down the middle with mismatches if we doubled outside

well a safety not to be mention standing in the end zone with their john thomas in their hands watching is not really what i would call the best us of a secondary

K Major 10-13-2013 08:00 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 538120)
Yep.... WTF was that? The Lewis throw out....

If Keenan positioned himself and makes the tackle IN BOUNDS, that run takes at least 10 to 15 seconds OFF the clock. Critical error at the end.

burningmetal 10-13-2013 08:10 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 538126)
You're assuming that the Seahwawks won't lose again either. A lot of football left and the fact still remains that this team has out-played everyone's expectations so far.

5-1 going into the bye with the loss to the AFC is pretty damn good, not like we were going to finished out undefeated

Actually, no I'm not assuming seattle wins out, but nice try. You obviously think I'm only talking about one potential loss.

The Saints have never won more than 13 games, and today didn't exactly convince me that they'll break that record. I expect the seahawks to win 12 to 13 games. I believe both teams are capable of winning any game they play, but they've both shown vulnerability.

So, what if they go 13-3 and we go 12-4? I think we'll win at least 13 games, but when you botch games like today it can cost you in the end.

Remember when we went 13-3 in '11 but finished tied with the 49ers, and they got home field because of conference records? But we lost to the BROWNS early in that season, an AFC team. Did you ever wish we would have won that game or any other game and gotten home field? Again, not rocket science. Every game matters, period.

cars4dylan 10-13-2013 08:23 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
When you don't play to win you can lose, simple as that.

Barry from MS 10-13-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by cars4dylan (Post 538139)
When you don't play to win you can lose, simple as that.

Ding, ding, ding...winner winner Chicken Dinner.

SASaintsfan 10-13-2013 08:39 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
Dont get me wrong I'm more than grateful to be 5-1 but I blame this on Payton. Play calling on last 3 drives was terrible. He played not to lose instead of playing to win. We'll learn and move on. At least it was to an AFC opponent. Still love my Saints, hard fought game.

niteadept 10-13-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 538060)
We were NOT going undefeated.
Get that wet dream out your heads.
We didn't get the job done. End of story.
Only loss is to an AFC team.
Enjoy 5-1 at the bye

Brees and Graham effed up a good wet dream :-)
However, I still love my boys!!
WHO DAT til I die! See u at the Bills game in two!
#goodellpaiddarefs

OldMaid 10-13-2013 08:43 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
burningmetal, I see your point and agree. Yes, every game is a game to win. Every game is important.
Thing is, winning them all is hard even for NEPats and DenBroncos.
When it is all said and done, season over, post season starts, who knows how which team will be standing depending on their record of L games and W games.

5-1. Good. 6-0 would have better and they really could have had that. Losing to non-division NEPats is better than losing to a division team. Thing is, Saints have to win those games coming up for sure.


I am happy that the Saints played a hard fought game and matched Brady and Pats every step of the game. Almost. :-(

I am not happy that Payton and Brees let , gave the game back to Brady and the Pats. Even Hartley made his FG's and even that last one that was so crucial. :-)
Brady and Pats did what they do and all he knows how to do and that is win. Right at that time, the game posted up his stats at winning 4th, end of of game. Hint of what was to come.

I feel awful about the game. Everyone does.

I was in chat with others and I, we I am sure , are all talked out.

I do not want to talk about it anymore.

I just hope, want the Saints to come back better and stronger and after their bye week and finish this season strong like they can. The talent is there. The timing is theirs. These are two things that do not happen forever. The time is still for the Saints. All of the right stuff is there for them these years .
They need to take away from this game better decision making.
They need to get tighter in that red zone and make more TD's when they get there instead of FG's.



:bng:

Saintaintso 10-13-2013 08:47 PM

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There's no doubt the Patriots played close to their best football today .. We didn't by far and still should've won On The road against an elite QB ...

If that's what it takes for us to lose you've got to feel good about our chances . We don't play another quarterback In Drews ozone for the rest of the year.

Boutte 10-13-2013 08:50 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 538120)
Yep.... WTF was that? The Lewis throw out....

Brain fart.

Beastmode 10-13-2013 08:56 PM

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Can't win when the officials make those kinds of calls in a tight game. They didn't even want to give Stills the TD. Before the commercials they were looking at it...WTF? The NFL needs to start reviewing helmet hits because I looked at the Jenkins hit and there was nothing there but air. It was a great hit. Probably one of his best and he clearly was making an effort not to make head contact. What else is he suppose to do, drop kick him? Come on.

|Mitch| 10-13-2013 09:02 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 538153)
They didn't even want to give Stills the TD. Before the commercials they were looking at it...WTF?

They review all scoring plays

WHODATINCA 10-13-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 538010)
The defense screwed up, but this one was on an offense that could not get a single first down in the last two three minutes because of monumentally stupid playcalling. Pitches!?? Naked Bootlegs??

Holy shinola. RIDICULOUS

Totally agree, I could NOT believe the play calling in the last f**king drive. Who the f**k took possession of Sean Payton's mind?

neugey 10-13-2013 09:24 PM

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The part with Payton and Brees that upsets me, and it's very correctable, is letting the play clock run down to :01-:00 way way too often. It bit us horribly and I believe it is the #1 reason we lost the game. A busted play where Brees throws a pick and our best player rolls his ankle - that tells you something. You allow a team to defense to tee off all the time because they know when the ball is going to be snapped. You play with fire asking for a timeout to be called when the play clock is under 2 seconds, and we got burned. I'm not saying we have to go into hurry up like the Pats - and I like milking the clock as much as the next guy - but my god at least snap the ball before it reaches :02!

I really don't care if it's SP or McMike calling the plays, just get the ball snapped sooner!

exiled 10-13-2013 09:35 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
poor clock management in the last 2 1/2 mins - I was shouting that from the second it looked like we would score our last score. - W
e were acting like we were up by 9 not 4

WHODATINCA 10-13-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 538065)
i have two weeks of crap to listen to here in boston

Wow. Feel bad for ya man. See ya here often.

Srgt. Hulka 10-13-2013 09:51 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 538158)
They review all scoring plays

That's true Mitch, but they reviewed that one long enough to go to a commercial break. I'm with Beastmode, they were trying their damnedest to take that score away from us.

jeanpierre 10-13-2013 09:52 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 538060)
We were NOT going undefeated.
Get that wet dream out your heads.
We didn't get the job done. End of story.
Only loss is to an AFC team.
Enjoy 5-1 at the bye

Now that is Perspective...

But, to stop the opponent with the game likely in hand and continue to give them the opportunity to win is understandably maddening...

Plus, this was the Pats and the National Game of the Week, Week, Week - it was embarrassing to lose like we did...

It's not like Payton and Brees chose to have a bad day at the office during the playoffs; they got reminded of some things, as Hagan says they had to get their cutsey sh** out of the way...

We're getting healthier, though I think Corey White was on his way to replacing Jabari Greer; we'll have to assess the injuries and get back to work...

Barry from MS 10-13-2013 10:31 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 538176)
We're getting healthier, though I think Corey White was on his way to replacing Jabari Greer; we'll have to assess the injuries and get back to work...

Yes. Back to work, out of the national spotlight and just an afterthought until the DAL-SF-ATL-SEA stretch. Think we'll be ready for that? Yeah, me too.

WHODATINCA 10-13-2013 10:53 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 538072)
Carmichael needs to take over the play calling IMO. SP has been calling games poorly all year and it finally came back to bite us.

Talk about mental error. <eyeroll>

WHODATINCA 10-13-2013 10:56 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 538087)
Drew was off sure but this was not SP finest game either.

maybe Drew just does not have faith in the young wr yet. this is a game were we really missed lance. Drew would have turned to him all game long as a third option

I love Lance Moore. Always say he is a stud. But, he has not played well this season.

WHODATINCA 10-13-2013 11:09 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 538176)
they had to get their cutsey sh** out of the way...

There was nothing cute about it. Payton's play calling was horrible at the end. Execution also sucked azz. Combine that with the bad officiating and that sums up the day.

Shyte.

C17-BING 10-14-2013 05:59 AM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
If someone would have said before the season started "Hey, you'll be 5-1 going into the bye week with your single loss coming at the hands of Brady with 5 seconds left" ... I think we can all agree that we would have been stoked as hell!!!

We'll be fine.

hagan714 10-14-2013 06:29 AM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 538168)
Wow. Feel bad for ya man. See ya here often.


thanks. last night was a living hell

hagan714 10-14-2013 06:31 AM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 538176)
Now that is Perspective...

But, to stop the opponent with the game likely in hand and continue to give them the opportunity to win is understandably maddening...

Plus, this was the Pats and the National Game of the Week, Week, Week - it was embarrassing to lose like we did...

It's not like Payton and Brees chose to have a bad day at the office during the playoffs; they got reminded of some things, as Hagan says they had to get their cutsey sh** out of the way...

We're getting healthier, though I think Corey White was on his way to replacing Jabari Greer; we'll have to assess the injuries and get back to work...

but it had to be to the pats :mad:

papz 10-14-2013 06:49 AM

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http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/L...dXN2iMo-Jl.jpg

We have an easy fix on offense... just wait until he gets healthy.

subguy 10-14-2013 06:50 AM

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I turned off the tv saying this loss is on Payton and Brees for poor time management. Time and time again the lesson is learned not to give Brady so many chances because he will capitalize. Yes there were bad calls, and yes we were playing a good team in the Pats. No worries about this loss, I am excited to be where we are. 5-1 doesn't suck

lynwood 10-14-2013 09:11 AM

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Playcalling was to "not lose the game" in the end instead of calling to win. That is more disappointing to me than the actual loss. We got conservative.

sportsnutt03 10-14-2013 09:56 AM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
Reminded me of the Saints of old....play not to lose. With a QB like Brady it was way to much time left. Your defense can only hold up so long. I like the effort the team gave, we just didn't have the killer instinct at the end to put the Patriots away.

SloMotion 10-14-2013 10:05 AM

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The whole game had kind of a weird ebb & flow to it and I think what we may have witnessed was an epic NFL battle of strategies between two of the premier head coaches in the history of the game, two of the elite quarterbacks in the history of the game, and two of the gamest teams in the league.

It don't get any better then it did on Sunday and it sucks to be on the losing end of a game like that, but all that win did for the Pats was to put them in the 5-1 club right alongside the Saints ... just sayin', :mrgreen:.

We live to fight another day ... ;).

Falcons91 10-14-2013 10:27 AM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 538150)
There's no doubt the Patriots played close to their best football today .. We didn't by far and still should've won On The road against an elite QB ...

If that's what it takes for us to lose you've got to feel good about our chances . We don't play another quarterback In Drews ozone for the rest of the year.

That was no where near the patriots best football bro, sorry. They played good enough to beat the saints but they were missing alot of key guys and definitely could have played better.

SloMotion 10-14-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcons91 (Post 538340)
That was no where near the patriots best football bro, sorry. They played good enough to beat the saints but they were missing alot of key guys and definitely could have played better.

... you'd probably have a little more credibility had you showed up before the game, :rolleyes: ... just sayin', ;).

Failclown sightings have been few & far between since the 1-4 debacle ... board's shut down again? :lol:.

|Mitch| 10-14-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcons91 (Post 538340)
That was no where near the patriots best football bro, sorry. They played good enough to beat the saints but they were missing alot of key guys and definitely could have played better.

How's it feel to be 1-4? :lolup:

blackangold 10-14-2013 01:16 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 538208)
Talk about mental error. <eyeroll>

2011 who called the plays that lead to a historical offense? Carmichael.

2012 who called the plays for the offense that lead the league (offense that was good enough to have a 7-9 record with the worst Defense in the history of the NFL)? Carmichael.

Who said that if his play calling doesn't get better he will turn it over (to Carmichael)? oh yeah, it was Payton.

Are you new, or do you not realize how well our offense has functioned when SP hasn't called the plays?

blackangold 10-14-2013 01:18 PM

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I have a question.

Who is this Colston guy that lead the team in receiving over the last 7 years; maybe he is on IR?

dizzle88 10-14-2013 01:20 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 538388)
I have a question.

Who is this Colston guy that lead the team in receiving over the last 7 years; maybe he is on IR?

Brees only looks at jimmy graham, it took him 3 quarters to throw to a different receiver

|Mitch| 10-14-2013 01:24 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 538389)
Brees only looks at jimmy graham, it took him 3 quarters to throw to a different receiver

Talib and the Pats said they had the answer to Graham; Brees, Payton, and Graham wanted to prove them otherwise. Ego got in the way perhaps?

Who knows when Graham suffered his injury or what would have happened if he would have stayed healthy

UK_WhoDat 10-14-2013 01:32 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
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Originally Posted by cars4dylan (Post 538139)
When you don't play to win you can lose, simple as that.

I know what yous are saying bro'. But credit where credit is due New England brought their best game. And criticism where criticism is due. The Saints were playing with the intention of winning. But there was a, how can I say it?...
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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 538151)
Brain fart.

oh thanks Boutte, that works.... and then some that looked like we never wanted the win.

An incredible game. I am exhausted by all aspects of the game. New England's O, our D, New England's D, Our O, the officiating. Probably a game I will never forget.

It is what it is.


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