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ikecomp 10-16-2013 10:32 AM

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Is it just me or is it taking a long time to hear about the results of the MRI?

mike27 10-16-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 538418)
You guys are going to kill me for this.

I think it would do the offense good if Graham sat out a game or two. He is an amazing, amazing player but we have come to lean on him too much. This might be a chance to get the offense back into balance.

I think you are exactly correct--but to be fair, Brees does spread the ball around pretty well, maybe this year slightly less.

I suppose this was a humbling week for Graham and his salary negotiations then. I suppose he should get paid at least as much as the best though. It seems like he should've made a few of those catches, but was kind of hot-dogging it, one-handing the ball.

But let's face it, the offense started very sluggishly, then the last two series they totally changed tactics, ran the ball six times. They knew they needed a first down, at least one, and I think maybe a screen pass, or something rather than a straight run should've been called, even with the interception risk. Runs have been shut down somewhere between 0 and -1 yards all year.

dueceloose 10-16-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ikecomp (Post 538922)
Is it just me or is it taking a long time to hear about the results of the MRI?

That's what scares me.

AsylumGuido 10-16-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mike27 (Post 538927)
I think you are exactly correct--but to be fair, Brees does spread the ball around pretty well, maybe this year slightly less.

I suppose this was a humbling week for Graham and his salary negotiations then. I suppose he should get paid at least as much as the best though. It seems like he should've made a few of those catches, but was kind of hot-dogging it, one-handing the ball.

But let's face it, the offense started very sluggishly, then the last two series they totally changed tactics, ran the ball six times. They knew they needed a first down, at least one, and I think maybe a screen pass, or something rather than a straight run should've been called, even with the interception risk. Runs have been shut down somewhere between 0 and -1 yards all year.

That wasn't hot-dogging. Talib, usually had hold of the other arm.

SaintFanQ 10-17-2013 03:22 PM

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I was expecting to have heard something about the scan by now!

Whats going on?

Oh! and one other thing about the Saints v Pats game! One of the main reasons that the Pats were productive on offence was the fact that they used the "hurry up" so often.

Why don't we do that so as the oppositions defence doesn't get chance to settle??

Just a thought! :-)

|Mitch| 10-17-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanQ (Post 539087)
I was expecting to have heard something about the scan by now!

Whats going on?

We have a bye week, Payton usually gives out his first injury report Wednesday game week. Doubt we hear anything until Wednesday of next week...

Halo 10-18-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanQ (Post 539087)
I was expecting to have heard something about the scan by now!

Whats going on?

Oh! and one other thing about the Saints v Pats game! One of the main reasons that the Pats were productive on offence was the fact that they used the "hurry up" so often.

Why don't we do that so as the oppositions defence doesn't get chance to settle??

Just a thought! :-)

I feel the hurry-up offense can be a weapon and a disability at the same time. Several times a game, hurry-up teams "hurry-up" and go 3 and out.

The Saints thrive on ball control and time of possession. We string endless drives together, sometimes getting 1st down on 3rd and long. It's agonizing for opposing defenses and a little demoralizing.

I think the hurry-up is effective in certain situations when the defense is in a bad defensive scheme, but only with wrong personnel on the field. Running it out the blue is difficult even for seasoned pro teams because it makes for a mixed tempo drive, which eventually throws the offense off rhythm.

Budsdrinker 10-18-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanQ (Post 539087)
I was expecting to have heard something about the scan by now!

Whats going on?

Oh! and one other thing about the Saints v Pats game! One of the main reasons that the Pats were productive on offence was the fact that they used the "hurry up" so often.

Why don't we do that so as the oppositions defence doesn't get chance to settle??

Just a thought! :-)

Because Payton likes to change personnel too much.

Beastmode 10-18-2013 12:43 PM

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Graham's injury is not believed to be serious per our favorite source ESPN.

AlaskaSaints 10-18-2013 02:11 PM

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The recipe for the nullification of Jimmy Graham has now been codified.

He has peaked.

How about that GROUND GAME, huh!!??

Alaska

dizzle88 10-18-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 539261)
Because Payton likes to change personnel too much.

We know that and so does every defensive coordinator

They know what plays we are going to run based on what personel we bring in

SaintsBro 10-18-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 539299)
The recipe for the nullification of Jimmy Graham has now been codified.

He has peaked.



Alaska

Huh? Does Aqib Talib now play for all 31 teams? Are we gonna face him in Buffalo, New York, Dallas, San Fran?

No way you can stop Jimmy Graham, unless you have the chess pieces to do it....Jimmy Graham has been shut out before, against Pittsburgh in '11. He is still in the top receivers/tight ends in the entire NFL. Maybe you don't want Jimmy to succeed, but it takes a very special skill set to do what Talib did to him the other day.

RaginCajun83 10-18-2013 05:07 PM

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Talib stopped Jimmy because the refs allowed him to mug Graham 10-15 yards past the line of scrimmage, that's not a game plan on how to stop Graham, it just goes to show that the NFL wants to protect their "golden" franchise in the Pats

|Mitch| 10-18-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 539358)
Huh? Does Aqib Talib now play for all 31 teams? Are we gonna face him in Buffalo, New York, Dallas, San Fran?

No way you can stop Jimmy Graham, unless you have the chess pieces to do it....Jimmy Graham has been shut out before, against Pittsburgh in '11. He is still in the top receivers/tight ends in the entire NFL. Maybe you don't want Jimmy to succeed, but it takes a very special skill set to do what Talib did to him the other day.

I bet if they played again this weekend and both Talib/Graham were healthy. He couldn't stop him again...

Danno 10-18-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 539360)
I bet if they played again this weekend and both Talib/Graham were healthy. He couldn't stop him again...

Agreed Mitch, its all about gameplanning. If we played next week both BB and Payton would compensate for what worked and what didn't.

Talib may indeed shut down Graham for the 1st quarter, but Payton would have plan B ready to make them pay for it, and BB would have to alter his anti-Graham strategy. I think Colston and Moore would be a major players.

Its a chess game that came down to the final 5 seconds, and Bilicheat barely won.

I honestly believe if we played the Pats 10 times, we'd go 6-4.

The Dude 10-18-2013 09:20 PM

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Yes Billechek developed a plan to take Graham out of the game with one of the best dbs in the game that other teams will use as a blue print to contain Graham and as we speak Payton is developing a game plan to break that blue print. He is one of the best Offensive coaches to ever coach in the NFL, and for that exact reason.

dueceloose 10-21-2013 05:00 PM

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Still no news on jimmy smh

blackangold 10-21-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 539378)
Agreed Mitch, its all about gameplanning. If we played next week both BB and Payton would compensate for what worked and what didn't.

Talib may indeed shut down Graham for the 1st quarter, but Payton would have plan B ready to make them pay for it, and BB would have to alter his anti-Graham strategy. I think Colston and Moore would be a major players.

Its a chess game that came down to the final 5 seconds, and Bilicheat barely won.

I honestly believe if we played the Pats 10 times, we'd go 6-4.

If that game is played in their house I agree with the 6-4, however if we play in the dome we win 9-1.

There is no way Jimmy gets mugged like that at home. Trying not to cry about it but home field advantage has an effect on the refs whether it be subconscious or not.

SaintsBro 10-22-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dueceloose (Post 539973)
Still no news on jimmy smh

DON'T WORRY. We will not get any information until Wednesday (which is when the league requires it from Payton) and even then it will be nothing too revealing or specific. Once you realize that Sean Payton only does the absolute minimum required by the league, as required for injury reports and updates, the absolute MINIMUM (and not a minute before the required deadline) you will learn to relax and be patient, don't worry.

Even if Jimmy's whole head had fallen off, in front of everyone on live national TV, and rolled around the field spurting blood, Sean wouldn't even mention it until end of the day Wednesday, and then he'd say "Jimmy Graham has a head" and move on to the next question -- that's just how it is with him.

TheOak 10-22-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 539420)
Yes Billechek developed a plan to take Graham out of the game with one of the best dbs in the game that other teams will use as a blue print to contain Graham and as we speak Payton is developing a game plan to break that blue print. He is one of the best Offensive coaches to ever coach in the NFL, and for that exact reason.

Does that plan include obtaining one of the best DBs in the game? LOL

I would venture to say its a pretty freakin integral part of the plan. :clown::bng:


Meanwhile we will smoke the Falcons again.

Beastmode 10-22-2013 03:21 PM

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Jimmy is amazing but he pigeon holes our offense. If he can't go I would not at all be surprised if we start putting up 40 pts. What's harder for defenses, covering up a couple of players or not knowing where the ball is going at any given time...I would say the later.

exile 10-22-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 540221)
Jimmy is amazing but he pigeon holes our offense.

I don't know beast. Doesn't make much sense to me. Great players rarely hurt offensive production.

Beastmode 10-22-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 540222)
I don't know beast. Doesn't make much sense to me. Great players rarely hurt offensive production.


We have several more good players not being fully utilized. People say, well, Ingram needs more carries, ok then what about receivers? They are suppose to play just as good with limited opportunities...I'm not buying that. Get them involved and their production and ability improve. Toon, Stills, Meachem...we also have a couple more decent TE's. Now who are they going to jam and double team? It makes it harder not knowing. You can't just key in on a specific player anymore.

dueceloose 10-22-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 540221)
Jimmy is amazing but he pigeon holes our offense. If he can't go I would not at all be surprised if we start putting up 40 pts.

Doubt we start putting up 40+ without him or even with him seeing as our defense isn't just letting everyone into the end zone plus running up the score is bad I heard Lol.

Just hoping he's OK... I rather sit him and he be back vs Sea/Sf than play him at less than 100% and end up like droppy white.

Rugby Saint II 10-22-2013 05:24 PM

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T-rex.


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