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pherein 11-03-2013 11:16 PM

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yeah just pisses me off. We a clearly better than that team. Jets offense is not good.

darstep 11-03-2013 11:20 PM

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Payton has been and still is "Pass Happy".
He has been spoiled by his success with throwing the ball with Brees.
There hasn't been a real commitment to the run since Duece,
and even then running the ball was more of an after thought than basic design.
I just don't understand how they can't see the benefit to Brees if we CAN run the ball.
Especially when it comes to trying to help protect our investment and extend
Brees' career well into the next 3 years or so of his deal.
We can't even use the "behind, trying to catch up" excuse today.
I (we) love Payton, but we have to live with his unwillingness to run the ball.

saintsfan403 11-03-2013 11:56 PM

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This is thread is so much better than every other one that's active right now. I just want to thank y'all for having a level headed discussion

hagan714 11-04-2013 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 544372)
The Jets can be a very good team when they're on. The O stinks but the D is top notch.

beg to differ on the OL the jets have a solid OL. but like the saints they are missing a few pieces or waiting for the unit to gel.

give some props to the DL here. once again they did a solid job. LB were so so as whole and we really missed our safeties.

thank god we face a rookie qb

dizzle88 11-04-2013 03:36 AM

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3 of 11 on third down, time to give up the reigns SP

Let carmichael take over

dizzle88 11-04-2013 03:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darstep (Post 544385)
Payton has been and still is "Pass Happy".
He has been spoiled by his success with throwing the ball with Brees.
There hasn't been a real commitment to the run since Duece,
and even then running the ball was more of an after thought than basic design.
I just don't understand how they can't see the benefit to Brees if we CAN run the ball.
Especially when it comes to trying to help protect our investment and extend
Brees' career well into the next 3 years or so of his deal.
We can't even use the "behind, trying to catch up" excuse today.
I (we) love Payton, but we have to live with his unwillingness to run the ball.

Its just like payton has brain farts every other year though

2006 - great running game
2007 - deuce injured, pass happy and drew throws 19 picks
2008 - no running game at all, drew throws 17 picks
2009 - great running game - SB
2010 - Every RB injured, lose to the 7-9 seahawks in the playoffs
2011 - great running game all year long, had about 16 rushing yards vs SF in playoffs and gave up running after the first quarter
2012 - no running game at all until after week 8

QBREES9 11-04-2013 08:05 AM

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Chris Ivory, had a great day. I guess he was pissed the Saints let him go.

Budsdrinker 11-04-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 544341)
We've hit the halfway mark and we're sitting at 6-2. We looked bad in todays loss but we were a couple of screw ups away from winning. A couple of weeks ago we were one play away from beating the Pats. In other words we're a couple of plays from 8-0.

But let's not kid ourselves, we're not a dominant football team. We're not as bad as a lot of the knee jerk posters are saying we are either. Our offense is still potent but it's definitely bi-polar. We can't run!

I don't agree with the people who faulted Payton for abandoning the run today. He knows what this offense can and can't do and there was no point in wasting plays and possessions running our RBs into a brick wall. There will be games where running serves a purpose but this wasn't one of them. If either Colston or Sproles played today we win!

The only reason we're one of the best teams in the league is Sean Payton and Drew Brees. Lose either one of those two we're strictly average, if that.

Only thing I disagree with is your statement of Payton abandoning the run. You would first have to run the ball in the first quarter to say you abandon the run.

RaginCajun83 11-04-2013 09:55 AM

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Time for Pete to start calling plays again, that 3rd string TE end around on a 4th and one still has me puzzled, really?

exile 11-04-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 544582)
Time for Pete to start calling plays again, that 3rd string TE end around on a 4th and one still has me puzzled, really?

The most puzzling part was that it was to Josh Hill. Really? If you are going to call that play use a WR like Stills or Meach. Although, I don't like it in any scenario. Let Drew throw the ball if you aren't confident in your running game.


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