NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

[TheOak]

Originally Posted by The Dude

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I REALLY hope this is the case and a matter of adjustment and not just a fluke against a Dallas ****ty banged up D. It would be awesome if Payton has found a way to make this unit better. If our line can play like that the rest of the year we will get to the SB. Guaranteed.

I cant find anything that says we changed anything and someone would have pointed it out.

I do know one thing from playing o-line.. It HAS to be cohesive and that takes time. There is the possibility that our o-line is now healthy and they gelled after the Jets game finally. In witch case there are many great things to come.

Again, its like synchronized swilling; all in unison and its beautiful. Just one person doing his own thing and it looks like cr4p and defenders get into our back field.

[cmsaint]

Originally Posted by TheOak

I wouldn't be so quick to think that our Front Office is sold just yet. What I expect is they will go with the hot hand against the 49ers to start and see how it plays out. If he stalls then PT will get his carries as long as he is gaining.

*Caveat - I still from memory think we switched back to man/gap run blocking against Dallas, and if we did then Katy bar the door because we will have another 100+ yard rushing game.

While that sounds good going with the hot hand it seems to have burned us one to many times. It seems to eventually turn into no one back getting into rhythm so we go even more pass heavy which is never good. Im kind of generalizing here but I hope im wrong.

However, its been proven that we are OK with PT and sporles mixing it up. 2's company, 3's a crowd.

[TheOak]

RB rhythm is a myth/

[TheOak]

So after a ton of Ingram threads we have come to the conclusion.

If the line doesn't block, he cant run. If the line blocks then he can run... Then again so could any RB.

[DrewBrees15]

Originally Posted by TheOak

So after a ton of Ingram threads we have come to the conclusion.

If the line doesn't block, he cant run. If the line blocks then he can run... Then again so could any RB.

Exactly, this is where all the angst comes from. Ingram didn't make any great cuts, break any tackles, do anything that any of our other backs couldn't have done on his way to his career day. We could have gotten this performance from an undrafted free agent - but we got it from a guy who cost us a first (2012) and second round (2011) pick. The angst is the opportunity cost given up that could have been used for much bigger needs.

[exile]

Originally Posted by DrewBrees15

Exactly, this is where all the angst comes from. Ingram didn't make any great cuts, break any tackles, do anything that any of our other backs couldn't have done on his way to his career day. We could have gotten this performance from an undrafted free agent - but we got it from a guy who cost us a first (2012) and second round (2011) pick. The angst is the opportunity cost given up to have something that we could have (and do have) a lot cheaper.

Well he sure hits the hole faster than our other RBs not named Sproles. While I agree to the o-line blocking/not blocking, when they do block I sure like to see a flash of 22 with his little legs churning through that hole. I find him a good change up to Sproles and PT23. With those 3 we should be ready for playoff celebrations.

Edit: I forgot to mention the Schlitz that will be required.

[Saintaintso]

Originally Posted by DrewBrees15

Exactly, this is where all the angst comes from. Ingram didn't make any great cuts, break any tackles, do anything that any of our other backs couldn't have done on his way to his career day. We could have gotten this performance from an undrafted free agent - but we got it from a guy who cost us a first (2012) and second round (2011) pick. The angst is the opportunity cost given up that could have been used for much bigger needs.

This is by Far the stupidest thing I've heard today ... He Broke over 7 Tackles , Made 3 or 4 Great Cuts at the second level and never got tackled by just one defender , Before you open your mouth you should review the film ... It took on average 5 Cowboys to bring him down. Even on his 1 yard run the Announcer was amazed at how many Defenders it took to fully impede his progress. The guy Flat out looked like Adrian Peterson ... PT and Sproles got the same blocking but didn't average over 5 that game , INGRAM was a sure fire 1st down averaging 10 yards every time he got the ball ... How can one be this blind ?

The even sadder thing about this is , If we could've blocked for Reggie Like this , He would've been the USC Reggie Bush we all loved so much. Running backs don't have a say in how productive they are , they line does.

[DrewBrees15]

I have watched the game twice and if you think he did anything Adrian Peterson like then I think we know who has blinders on. Even if he did every thing you said he did, was he worth the picks given?

[TheOak]

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

This is by Far the stupidest thing I've heard today ...

That was uncalled for. So I'll reply, that's only because this is your first reply of the day.

[blackangold]

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

This is by Far the stupidest thing I've heard today ... He Broke over 7 Tackles , Made 3 or 4 Great Cuts at the second level and never got tackled by just one defender , Before you open your mouth you should review the film ... It took on average 5 Cowboys to bring him down. Even on his 1 yard run the Announcer was amazed at how many Defenders it took to fully impede his progress. The guy Flat out looked like Adrian Peterson ... PT and Sproles got the same blocking but didn't average over 5 that game , INGRAM was a sure fire 1st down averaging 10 yards every time he got the ball ... How can one be this blind ?

The even sadder thing about this is , If we could've blocked for Reggie Like this , He would've been the USC Reggie Bush we all loved so much. Running backs don't have a say in how productive they are , they line does.

Calling someone stupid and then saying ingram looked like Adrian Peterson .... ah.... okay. If Peterson had that same blocking you would be looking at 250+ and 2 or 3 tds..

Ingram did well but your getting carried away.