New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm (https://blackandgold.com/saints/61899-vd-gore-vs-harp-malcolm.html)

westbankdaze 11-14-2013 08:15 AM

VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
This matchup has been a bad deal for is in recent years. We take away the run then VD gets open, we take away VD and then Gore gashes us. All we have to do is contain both since the niners WR corps sucks balls.

I really wish Vaccarro was in this game because I think the 3 safety set with him Harper and MJ would be good in containing VD. Then it's up our LB to stop the run.

Before the B&G Crew comes down on me for bashing Harper I just want to say that you have to consider that Harper has been absolutely lit up by Davis in the past.

I think our offense is as good and healthy as the one that almost beat the niners in the playoffs a few years back so I am not as concerned about that. Still they are very tough to move chains on - I think mainly because we never seem to get our screen game working against them. They seem to be nasty in the flats.

SmashMouth 11-14-2013 08:29 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
This isn't the same VD as in years past. We have the penicillin now.

TheOak 11-14-2013 08:49 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
My guess is that Vernon Davis is used to block more than receiving since that is what SF has been doing with him this season against strong defenses.

Seattle 5 targets - 20 yards
Carolina 2 targets 2 yards


We are going to keep pressure on Kap, forcing the run and they simply will not be able to keep up in scoring.

Danno 11-14-2013 09:05 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
2012 - Vernon Davis vs Saints
0 Catches, 0 Yards

And it was Malcolm Jenkins that Davis lit up all game (2011), not Harper.

saintsfan1976 11-14-2013 09:20 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Niners match up well vs our offense.

Need the run game to be in sync early and often

Ryan can't get too cute. Stay home, limit Colin

TheOak 11-14-2013 09:24 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 547967)
Niners match up well vs our offense.

Need the run game to be in sync early and often

Ryan can't get too cute. Stay home, limit Colin

Colin is going to be the wild card... The rest we can handle. Once we get 14 up he will be forced to throw and its duck season.

saintsfan403 11-14-2013 11:07 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Davis lit us up cause he was the only target Alex Smith passed to. Ryan can scheme to stop Gore and force Kaepernick to try and win it with his arm.

dueceloose 11-14-2013 11:11 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 547968)
and its duck season.

sure its not rabbit season?

TheOak 11-14-2013 11:18 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Trent Dilfer has some words about Kerpernick
Colin Kaepernick responds to criticism of his passing - NFL.com

SmashMouth 11-14-2013 11:31 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 547997)
Trent Dilfer has some words about Kerpernick
Colin Kaepernick responds to criticism of his passing - NFL.com

Is Trent Dilfer wearing a Brian Billick costume? :jkool:

westbankdaze 11-14-2013 06:59 PM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 547960)
2012 - Vernon Davis vs Saints
0 Catches, 0 Yards

And it was Malcolm Jenkins that Davis lit up all game (2011), not Harper.

That was the game Gore gashed us. We contained VD but then we let the other TE eat us up.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Vrillon82 11-14-2013 09:29 PM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 547940)
This matchup has been a bad deal for is in recent years. We take away the run then VD gets open, we take away VD and then Gore gashes us. All we have to do is contain both since the niners WR corps sucks balls.

I really wish Vaccarro was in this game because I think the 3 safety set with him Harper and MJ would be good in containing VD. Then it's up our LB to stop the run.

Before the B&G Crew comes down on me for bashing Harper I just want to say that you have to consider that Harper has been absolutely lit up by Davis in the past.

I think our offense is as good and healthy as the one that almost beat the niners in the playoffs a few years back so I am not as concerned about that. Still they are very tough to move chains on - I think mainly because we never seem to get our screen game working against them. They seem to be nasty in the flats.

do to VD what we did to Dez Bryant, nothing else on the 49ers that concern me except Gore. Once you take VD out of the picture (as long as ****ing harper aint on the TE) then you can focus on Gore.

Prediction?

Saints 28
49ers 13

Barry from MS 11-14-2013 10:03 PM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Stop the run, first and foremost. I'm calling it: SF runs for more than 150 yards, they win and turn out the lights.

But, MAN, it better not be! I'm a Niner-hater waaaay back, and this 2-game losing streak against this turd of a team ends NOW! Payton's back, Spags is gone...this ain't 2012.

Cruize 11-14-2013 10:41 PM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Find someone to get physical with Davis. He's banged up and needs to be banged on. Then, single the outside guys and play the run. Game over if they can execute it. WHO DAT!

Rell&Gold 11-15-2013 12:38 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 547960)
2012 - Vernon Davis vs Saints
0 Catches, 0 Yards

And it was Malcolm Jenkins that Davis lit up all game (2011), not Harper.

Harper was apart of that too VD scored the game winning td on him

hagan714 11-15-2013 05:27 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
If Kaepernut is off again sunday and over throws the barn you want Harper on the field.

OLB gets sealed off and the CB and safety support has not been there to stop the runs off tackle. Thats were Harper thrives.

Let lewis take boldin and have at least to players hit davis before he gets 5 yards deep and Kaep will be limited. DL stays in their lanes and the LB and Safeties should be raking up tackles all game long.

just admit it when it comes to run stopping Harper is the man. passing not so much

hagan714 11-15-2013 05:29 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 548158)
Harper was apart of that too VD scored the game winning td on him

The DL did not keep there lanes most of the day. that is what killed us more than anything

Danno 11-15-2013 08:01 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 548158)
Harper was apart of that too VD scored the game winning td on him

Debatable, Davis caught it just out of reach of the LB and in front of the safety. To blame that on Harper is shortsighted.

But that was one play. To say Davis lit up Harper all day is simply wrong.

Danno 11-15-2013 08:03 AM

Re: VD + Gore vs Harp + Malcolm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 548164)
The DL did not keep there lanes most of the day. that is what killed us more than anything

It was five turnovers that killed us more than anything. FIVE freaking turnovers? Has any team every won an NFL playoff game with five turnovers?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:49 AM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com