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SmashMouth 11-18-2013 03:34 PM

Playoff Picture as of Today 11-18-13
 
NFL Playoff Picture - 2013 NFL Standings - CBSSports.com

We need to keep winning for home field edge ...

SaintSproles 11-18-2013 03:46 PM

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I'm looking at the #2 seed being almost as important as the #1 seed.

Carolina losing tonight is huge, and gives us both a 2 game lead on Carolina for the division and a 2 game lead over Detroit for the #2 seed (3 game lead over Chicago since we beat them).

A #2 seed gives you a week off to get healthy, a home game guaranteed for the Divisional round, and the possibility of another home game if the #1 is beaten (which has happened in the NFC 2 of the last 3 years).

73Saint 11-18-2013 03:53 PM

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Never have I rooted so hard for Brady and the Pats!!

exile 11-18-2013 03:54 PM

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Beat Seattle. Home field all the way. Problems solved.

arsaint 11-18-2013 04:40 PM

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Currently 72-26% on HFA between Seattle and the Saints.

NFC Playoff Picture

Of course when we sneak out of the NW with another win on the leg of Hartley, those numbers will flip.

And currently we have 73% on getting a bye.

Papa Voodoo 11-18-2013 04:46 PM

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Man, it would be sweet to get to 10-2 against Seattle in Seattle and take HFA and the 1st seed.

ScottF 11-18-2013 05:25 PM

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obviously we have to win in Seattle, but they could lose the following week as well, giving us a cushion
I could see both teams 13-3, with us as #1 seed

dueceloose 11-18-2013 05:31 PM

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How sweet would it be we beat Seattle and SF does the same.. I feel confident we can do it.

Vrillon82 11-18-2013 06:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 549637)
I'm looking at the #2 seed being almost as important as the #1 seed.

Carolina losing tonight is huge, and gives us both a 2 game lead on Carolina for the division and a 2 game lead over Detroit for the #2 seed (3 game lead over Chicago since we beat them).

A #2 seed gives you a week off to get healthy, a home game guaranteed for the Divisional round, and the possibility of another home game if the #1 is beaten (which has happened in the NFC 2 of the last 3 years).

Yeah I could see a team like Seattle getting beat in the Divisional round by a team similar to what those 9-7 Giants did a couple years ago in GB. The question is, what team would be similar that could do that in Seattle?

How about the 49ers or Panthers?

I be honest with you, unless we drop both Panther games in regular season while maintaining a #2 seed, I dont want to see them in the playoffs.

foreverfan 11-18-2013 07:06 PM

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Have you ever seen all of those NFC teams make the playoffs in any one year?

Schmohams 11-18-2013 10:57 PM

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I'm thinking Seattle could fall into a trap game with St. Louis or Arizona. Seattle doesn't looks so hot off of home turf, I think its very possible for the Saints to get the #1 seed.

WillSaints81 11-18-2013 11:44 PM

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The cards have a chance at an upset but they have to go to Tennessee the week before that. I just don't know if they or St.Louis can pull off the upset.

NOLA54 11-18-2013 11:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 549630)
NFL Playoff Picture - 2013 NFL Standings - CBSSports.com

We need to keep winning for home field edge ...

We need to learn to win on the road in the playoffs.

NOLA54 11-18-2013 11:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 549637)
I'm looking at the #2 seed being almost as important as the #1 seed.

Carolina losing tonight is huge, and gives us both a 2 game lead on Carolina for the division and a 2 game lead over Detroit for the #2 seed (3 game lead over Chicago since we beat them).

A #2 seed gives you a week off to get healthy, a home game guaranteed for the Divisional round, and the possibility of another home game if the #1 is beaten (which has happened in the NFC 2 of the last 3 years).

Carolina did not lose. Now what?

pherein 11-18-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 549893)
Carolina did not lose. Now what?

we are in trouble because we lost to NE, simple.

hagan714 11-19-2013 06:10 AM

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win this week then you have ten days to worry about the next game. so win this week.

Budsdrinker 11-19-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 549894)
we are in trouble because we lost to NE, simple.

Not true. Carolina lost to Arizona whom we beat as well as Buffalo. NE is just one team out of 3 in common opponents so far. Also Carolina has 2 conference losses and as of now we don't have any. As long as we can split with Carolina we stay ahead unless we lose more NFC games.

TheOak 11-19-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 549894)
we are in trouble because we lost to NE, simple.

Simple?

In trouble with who?
We are still 1 game ahead in record.

Carolina lost to the Seahwaks, Bills and Cardinals.. Beat NE and haven't played the Jets yet.

We beat the Bills, Cardinals... Lost to NE, Jets.

In common games we are up by two.

If we lose to Seattle its still up by 1.
Then we have the Cardinals game which is conference. +1 Saints.
If something else happens it goes to strength of Victory. Net points we presently have them by 2

Only strength of Schedule tips in their favor.

So that being said... Screw resting players or slowing down for garbage time... We need a bigger point differential.

RaginCajun83 11-19-2013 08:41 AM

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Just keep winning and there's nothing to worry about

WillSaints81 11-19-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 549962)
Simple?

In trouble with who?
We are still 1 game ahead in record.

Carolina lost to the Seahwaks, Bills and Cardinals.. Beat NE and haven't played the Jets yet.

We beat the Bills, Cardinals... Lost to NE, Jets.

In common games we are up by two.

If we lose to Seattle its still up by 1.
Then we have the Cardinals game which is conference. +1 Saints.
If something else happens it goes to strength of Victory. Net points we presently have them by 2

Only strength of Schedule tips in their favor.

So that being said... Screw resting players or slowing down for garbage time... We need a bigger point differential.

Actually, by the time we play Seattle they will have already played Miami.

If Carolina beats Miami, New York in addition to already beating New England, St.Louis, and San Francisco that leaves them with 5 common wins.

If we beat St.Louis or Seattle in addition to already beating Miami, Buffalo, San Francisco, and Arizona that leaves us with 5 common wins. If we beat both St.Louis and Seattle then we have the tiebreaker won.

But.............a tied common wins tiebreaker means it goes to conference record, which means Carolina has to beat both Miami and NY to get out of common games tiebreaker only to lose to us in conference record tiebreaker.

You are right on the tiebreaker scenario though we have them beat up until strength of victory.

As of now in that tiebreaker
Carolina's wins
NE-7 wins(likely resulting in 11-12 wins)
SF-6 wins(likely resulting in 11-12 wins, not buying the cardinals beating them)
StL-4 wins(likely resulting in 6 wins, maybe 5 if bears to don't sleep on them and run the ball)
NYG-4 wins(likely resulting in 5-6 wins, do not think they beat Dallas, SD, Seattle, or Detroit)
Min-2 wins(likely 2-3 wins, bengals game week 16 is interesting)
That totals 23 wins atm and will result in 36-40 wins
But they have to beat Miami or the jets remaining(cannot beat both because then it doesnt come to this)
Lets say its jets since its at home
NY-5 wins(likely resulting in 8 wins)
That will be 44-48 total combined wins beat.

Our wins
Mia-5 wins(likely resulting in 8 wins if they beat Carolina)
Buf-4 wins(likely resulting in 8 wins with what they have coming up)
SF-6 wins(likely resulting in 11-12 wins)
Ari-6 wins(likely resulting in 7-8 wins, yep they could just win 1 more)
Dal-5 wins(likely resulting in 8-10 wins)
Chi-6 wins(likely resulting in 9-11 wins)
That is 32 wins that should end up 51-57 combined wins beat. Meaning it wouldnt matter which team we beat between Seattle and St.Louis as we will eclipse Carolina's total by 3 or more wins.

TheOak 11-19-2013 05:38 PM

Playoff Picture as of Today 11-18-13
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 550293)
Actually, by the time we play Seattle they will have already played Miami.

If Carolina beats Miami, New York in addition to already beating New England, St.Louis, and San Francisco that leaves them with 5 common wins.

If we beat St.Louis or Seattle in addition to already beating Miami, Buffalo, San Francisco, and Arizona that leaves us with 5 common wins. If we beat both St.Louis and Seattle then we have the tiebreaker won.

But.............a tied common wins tiebreaker means it goes to conference record, which means Carolina has to beat both Miami and NY to get out of common games tiebreaker only to lose to us in conference record tiebreaker.

You are right on the tiebreaker scenario though we have them beat up until strength of victory.

As of now in that tiebreaker
Carolina's wins
NE-7 wins(likely resulting in 11-12 wins)
SF-6 wins(likely resulting in 11-12 wins, not buying the cardinals beating them)
StL-4 wins(likely resulting in 6 wins, maybe 5 if bears to don't sleep on them and run the ball)
NYG-4 wins(likely resulting in 5-6 wins, do not think they beat Dallas, SD, Seattle, or Detroit)
Min-2 wins(likely 2-3 wins, bengals game week 16 is interesting)
That totals 23 wins atm and will result in 36-40 wins
But they have to beat Miami or the jets remaining(cannot beat both because then it doesnt come to this)
Lets say its jets since its at home
NY-5 wins(likely resulting in 8 wins)
That will be 44-48 total combined wins beat.

Our wins
Mia-5 wins(likely resulting in 8 wins if they beat Carolina)
Buf-4 wins(likely resulting in 8 wins with what they have coming up)
SF-6 wins(likely resulting in 11-12 wins)
Ari-6 wins(likely resulting in 7-8 wins, yep they could just win 1 more)
Dal-5 wins(likely resulting in 8-10 wins)
Chi-6 wins(likely resulting in 9-11 wins)
That is 32 wins that should end up 51-57 combined wins beat. Meaning it wouldnt matter which team we beat between Seattle and St.Louis as we will eclipse Carolina's total by 3 or more wins.

Stoooppppppop! Way too much on the guessing.

We have Carolina until strength of schedule. That is where they have the advantage according to the NFL list

ScottF 11-19-2013 05:52 PM

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way too much thinking going on...
we play them twice. we don't need to worry about tie-breakers, just winning

WillSaints81 11-19-2013 06:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 550293)
Actually, by the time we play Seattle they will have already played Miami.

If Carolina beats Miami, New York in addition to already beating New England, St.Louis, and San Francisco that leaves them with 5 common wins.

If we beat St.Louis or Seattle in addition to already beating Miami, Buffalo, San Francisco, and Arizona that leaves us with 5 common wins. If we beat both St.Louis and Seattle then we have the tiebreaker won.

But.............a tied common wins tiebreaker means it goes to conference record, which means Carolina has to beat both Miami and NY to get out of common games tiebreaker only to lose to us in conference record tiebreaker.

You are right on the tiebreaker scenario though we have them beat up until strength of victory.

As of now in that tiebreaker
Carolina's wins
NE-7 wins(likely resulting in 11-12 wins)
SF-6 wins(likely resulting in 11-12 wins, not buying the cardinals beating them)
StL-4 wins(likely resulting in 6 wins, maybe 5 if bears to don't sleep on them and run the ball)
NYG-4 wins(likely resulting in 5-6 wins, do not think they beat Dallas, SD, Seattle, or Detroit)
Min-2 wins(likely 2-3 wins, bengals game week 16 is interesting)
That totals 23 wins atm and will result in 36-40 wins
But they have to beat Miami or the jets remaining(cannot beat both because then it doesnt come to this)
Lets say its jets since its at home
NY-5 wins(likely resulting in 8 wins)
That will be 44-48 total combined wins beat.

Our wins
Mia-5 wins(likely resulting in 8 wins if they beat Carolina)
Buf-4 wins(likely resulting in 8 wins with what they have coming up)
SF-6 wins(likely resulting in 11-12 wins)
Ari-6 wins(likely resulting in 7-8 wins, yep they could just win 1 more)
Dal-5 wins(likely resulting in 8-10 wins)
Chi-6 wins(likely resulting in 9-11 wins)
That is 32 wins that should end up 51-57 combined wins beat. Meaning it wouldnt matter which team we beat between Seattle and St.Louis as we will eclipse Carolina's total by 3 or more wins.

nvm

TheOak 11-19-2013 06:15 PM

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UK_WhoDat 11-19-2013 08:35 PM

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If you people spent less time thinking about sex and more time concentrating on comic books, we’d have far fewer of these embarrassing moments.

UK_WhoDat 11-19-2013 08:36 PM

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SaintSproles 11-19-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 550298)
Stoooppppppop! Way too much on the guessing.

We have Carolina until strength of schedule. That is where they have the advantage according to the NFL list

where do you see that?

There are only 2 uncommon games between teams in the same division.

So it comes down to the Saints having played Dallas and Chicago vs Carolina having played the Giants and Minnesota. Dallas and Chicago are an 11-6 combined record, whereas the Giants and Vikings are 6-11. Going to be really tough for Carolina's uncommon opponents to catch up 5 games. That's why we should actually pull for Dallas to beat the Giants this weekend.

hagan714 11-19-2013 11:45 PM

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i am trying to see the playoff picture but i can not see through all the bird crap in atlanta. clean that pile crap off first.

TheOak 11-20-2013 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 550393)
where do you see that?

There are only 2 uncommon games between teams in the same division.

So it comes down to the Saints having played Dallas and Chicago vs Carolina having played the Giants and Minnesota. Dallas and Chicago are an 11-6 combined record, whereas the Giants and Vikings are 6-11. Going to be really tough for Carolina's uncommon opponents to catch up 5 games. That's why we should actually pull for Dallas to beat the Giants this weekend.

Team-by-team strength of schedule for 2013 - NFL.com

What is gray for me and I am looking for clarification is whether they use the initial SoS or look at it at the time of the decision.

According to Wiki it is for that season, so I was premature in my assumption.
Strength of schedule (the combined won-lost-tied percentage of all the teams that a club has played against).

spkb25 11-20-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 549932)
win this week then you have ten days to worry about the next game. so win this week.

Flat out- everyone is stomping Atlanta, and I don't want to hear **** about how they're going to play harder because it is us. If we don't win this week that is completely 1000% on us. That team stinks. First game of the season Atlanta was a lot better than they are now. They have lost a ton of people since then, their D is like swiss cheese. Someone call Mark Ingram, his second 100 yard game is on the way

Rugby Saint II 11-20-2013 05:48 PM

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13-3 should do it. 14-2 is almost a lock.


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