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WhoDat!656 11-20-2013 05:18 PM

Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
In their roles as ESPN NFL analysts, Lewis and Bruschi even went so far as to criticize Brees. Lewis called one of Brees' postgame comments "embarrassing," insinuating that he couldn't take a hard hit. Bruschi said Brees needed to "get tough," while supporting Brooks and the hit.

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SaintSproles 11-20-2013 05:23 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
How many concussions did Tedy Bruschi incur during his career?

Ray Lewis is a murderer, so there's that.

WhoDat!656 11-20-2013 05:32 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
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Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 550732)
How many concussions did Tedy Bruschi incur during his career?

Ray Lewis is a murderer, so there's that.

The symptom's of Bruschi's stroke have finally shown up

Danno 11-20-2013 05:40 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
It amazes me that with football being the most popular sport in America and nothing else even coming close, the sports media can't find anyone better than the numerous morons they currently employ.

Amazing.

SloMotion 11-20-2013 05:52 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
It amazes me how they miss the 'big picture'. We all agree 10yrs ago (or more) that was a non-call, but no matter how you slice it, it's a flag & a fine in today's NFL. These guys should know that, they're watching the same games we are ... and yeah, Drew's toughness is without question ... you don't get up from a hit like that without a serious gut-check ... the comments on his height/stature were some of the stupidest I've heard as of late, :rolleyes:.

Rugby Saint II 11-20-2013 05:55 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Why can't the networks find someone who isn't brain dead to report?

Danno 11-20-2013 05:58 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 550752)
It amazes me how they miss the 'big picture'. We all agree 10yrs ago (or more) that was a non-call, but no matter how you slice it, it's a flag & a fine in today's NFL. These guys should know that, they're watching the same games we are ... and yeah, Drew's toughness is without question ... you don't get up from a hit like that without a serious gut-check ... the comments on his height/stature were some of the stupidest I've heard as of late, :rolleyes:.

True, and we have all questioned or criticized the new wimpy rules, but this is kind weird in the fact that the media isn't attacking the rule, they're attacking the call. WTF?

There is no question that the hit was illegal according to the rules. Thats a no-brainer.

Why they continue to bash the call is what pisses me off. Bashing the rule I could completely understand, and to a great extent I agree. Bashing the call shows a complete lack of knowledge about the rule. Professional sports media should know the difference.

SaintSproles 11-20-2013 06:05 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Actually the part of this rule I don't like is the fact that Brooks still gets credit for a sack (why?) and the ball is moved from the spot of the foul. In this case, it became essentially only a 5 yard penalty from the 35 (spot of foul was the 45 and got moved to the 30), vs a 15 yarder which would have put it at the 20.

That needs to change.

Danno 11-20-2013 06:12 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 550762)
Actually the part of this rule I don't like is the fact that Brooks still gets credit for a sack (why?) and the ball is moved from the spot of the foul. In this case, it became essentially only a 5 yard penalty from the 35 (spot of foul was the 45 and got moved to the 30), vs a 15 yarder which would have put it at the 20.

That needs to change.

My guess is that if he hadn't hit Drew high, it would have been a sack.

But thats a pretty interesting take.

If someone commits PI in the endzone, why isn't the receiver credited with a TD?

SaintSproles 11-20-2013 06:16 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 550765)
My guess is that if he hadn't hit Drew high, it would have been a sack.

But thats a pretty interesting take.

If someone commits PI in the endzone, why isn't the receiver credited with a TD?

Oh it's a sack no doubt if there is no penalty on the play

I just don't think a player who just committed a personal foul on a QB deserves to get credit for the sack.

Danno 11-20-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 550768)
Oh it's a sack no doubt if there is no penalty on the play

I just don't think a player who just committed a personal foul on a QB deserves to get credit for the sack.

Thats interesting. I'm debating with myself if I agree with you or not. Its currently 50-50.:p

Why credit someone with the sack if their play resulted in a 1st down?

onebyone 11-20-2013 06:50 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
I still cant believe THIS is the hit some folks are up in arms about being called. I mean, it couldn't have been more brazenly obviously against the rules.

The folks talking smack about Brees because of this really get on my nerves, but I guess haters gonna hate and whiners gonna whine.

Nati31 11-20-2013 06:56 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Funny thing about bruschi is that he played with a guy who basically changed the rules on how to hit a QB back in 2007, if I'm not mistaken the rules drastically changed then. Of course I'm talking about Brady.

skymike 11-20-2013 06:58 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Well the problem is obvious.

There are far too many "analysts" on tv.
I'd keep Chris Berman, and fire all the rest.

If they dont have any football or highlighst to show, then just sign off for a while. I dont need analysis.

jlouhill 11-20-2013 07:01 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
As I said in another thread I can't believe the way people are reacting to this. It's not like some of the calls we see where a defenders hand grazes the qbs' helmet and he's flagged for 15. Brooks dang near took Brees' head off. It looks just as bad in regular speed as it does in slomo. I'm usually with the defender on these but I would be ok with the call even if the tables were turned and it's against us.

SmashMouth 11-20-2013 07:18 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 550793)
Well the problem is obvious.

There are far too many "analysts" on tv.
I'd keep Chris Berman, and fire all the rest.

If they dont have any football or highlighst to show, then just sign off for a while. I dont need analysis.

Makes you wonder what these analysts would do for a living instead of spewing bladerring jibberish like they do.

ssvnewman 11-20-2013 07:20 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
I can not believe ESPN would continue to employ stupid ex-football players that have had their brains so rattled that they would say something like that about Brees. He did not get up and start complaining about the illegal hit. All he did was get up, get back in the huddle, and play the game. The flag was thrown a long time before Brees even got up off the ground. To say he is not tough enough for some ESPN morons is so stupid. How many ges has Brees missed since coming to the Saints? He has played in more games in the last 6 years than these morons at ESPN even remember playing in their whole life. ESPN needs to hire people that will give the fans an unbias opinion of the game.

jnormand 11-20-2013 08:12 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
What would Bruschi had said if it was Tom Brady? He'd support Tom. He's a homer and a dumbass. I can't stand him. Never liked him as an "analyst" either.

And Lewis? The most show boating LB to ever play. He literally acts like the Keyshawn Johnson of LBs.

Oh yeah....and he's a murderer.

burningmetal 11-20-2013 08:32 PM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 550765)
My guess is that if he hadn't hit Drew high, it would have been a sack.

But thats a pretty interesting take.

If someone commits PI in the endzone, why isn't the receiver credited with a TD?

That's why I've always been at odds with holding in the endzone being called a safety. If that's the case then touchdowns SHOULD be awarded for interference in the endzone.

I really don't want penalties to result in automatic points, but it's the inconsistency in the rules that just make no sense.

skymike 11-21-2013 06:41 AM

Re: Question penalty on Ahmad Brooks all you want, but not Drew Brees' toughness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 550826)
...it's the inconsistency in the rules that just make no sense.

yeah, like when you can "break the plane" over the goal line. But you have to actually step on the out of bounds to be out of bounds,
if you catch the ball with your feet inbounds and the ball out of bounds its in
bounds. Why dont you break the plane of out of bounds? And why cant you
just step your foot into the goalline? like its "base?"


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