Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension

Lord_Saint83 · 11-24-2013, 12:48 PM

Excellent, if he serves immediately plus browner out the sea dicks will be mighty short on solid cb's. Sherman can't cover everyone. Looks like things are gonna be in the Saints favor.

jeanpierre · 11-24-2013, 01:30 PM

If the cornerbacks are out - I say geaux all SP on them and RUN THE DAMN BALL!

That way there's no excuses and our wanna-be offensive linemen and tenderize that meat for the playoffs...

|Mitch| · 11-24-2013, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If the cornerbacks are out - I say geaux all SP on them and RUN THE DAMN BALL!

That way there's no excuses and our wanna-be offensive linemen and tenderize that meat for the playoffs...

Until they move the safeties in the box and then Graham has another 5 for 100+ like he's known to do...

Jack Vegas · 11-24-2013, 01:50 PM

If Sherman covers Graham, Colston will feast on backup DB's. If Sherman covers Colston and somehow their safeties and LB's contain Graham, then Stills/Moore/Meachem will feast on backup DB's.

Danno · 11-24-2013, 09:18 PM

Saw this recap over on SR...

Bruce Irvin, 4 games, May 2013
Brandon Browner, 4 games, Dec 2012
Richard Sherman, 4 games, Dec 2012 (won on appeal)
Winston Guy, 4 games, Nov 2012
Allen Barbre, 4 games, May 2012
John Moffitt, 4 games, Dec 2011

Seattle's 13th man...

Schmohams · 11-24-2013, 11:17 PM

We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing.

AlaskaSaints · 11-25-2013, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Schmohams

We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing.

Show me. We just beat Matty (Elite) Ice and his receiving corps, less-one.

;-]]

Alaska

Jack Vegas · 11-25-2013, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Schmohams

We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing.

The difference is those guys are the strength of their defense, playing man press coverage on the outside is what sets them up for success. see this article Super corners set limits, rest of Seahawks' dominant D fills in gaps - CBSSports.com

Our defense on the other hand is set up by the d-line so the secondary guys have a certain amount of slack.

Also from the above article, the Saints have a schematic advantage on offense in that they run a lot of bunched sets and tight formations so they can hide some pre-snap reads from the defense and force them to play zone.

I think we beat the Seahawks comfortably, maybe by 10 or 13. They haven't seen a team like the Saints yet. I mean, look at their schedule, talk about soft. If we had played that schedule we'd probably be undefeated right now.

Marching · 11-25-2013, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Schmohams

We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing.

When you say we have lost 2 of our 3 CBs, do you mean Greer and Patrick Robinson? I agree on Greer, but Robinson is not one of our best CBs. Lewis, Greer, and White are all better than him if you ask me.

Jack Vegas · 11-25-2013, 07:18 AM

Easy to bash on Robinson but he didn't have a chance to prove himself in the new defense. He is a good man-to-man corner and proved it in 2011 in a non-Spagnuolo scheme and IMO was off to a great start this year before the injury. If all were healthy and playing right now IMO Robinson would be the outside corner in the nickel with Greer playing the slot guy and White would be riding pine.

The only difference between people's opinions of Robinson and somebody like Hawthorne/Lofton/Jenkins/Galette/etc is that those guys got to redeem themselves now after playing in Spag's crappy scheme and looking terrible. P-Rob never really got the chance. Personaly, I feel like everybody from that Spag defense should get a clean slate b/c now we see the problem clearly wasn't the players, it was the coaching.

11-24-2013, 12:48 PM	#1
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Seattle CB Excellent, if he serves immediately plus browner out the sea dicks will be mighty short on solid cb's. Sherman can't cover everyone. Looks like things are gonna be in the Saints favor.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Seattle CB If the cornerbacks are out - I say geaux all SP on them and RUN THE DAMN BALL! That way there's no excuses and our wanna-be offensive linemen and tenderize that meat for the playoffs...

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Seattle CB Originally Posted by jeanpierre If the cornerbacks are out - I say geaux all SP on them and RUN THE DAMN BALL! That way there's no excuses and our wanna-be offensive linemen and tenderize that meat for the playoffs... Until they move the safeties in the box and then Graham has another 5 for 100+ like he's known to do...

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Seattle CB If Sherman covers Graham, Colston will feast on backup DB's. If Sherman covers Colston and somehow their safeties and LB's contain Graham, then Stills/Moore/Meachem will feast on backup DB's.
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11-24-2013, 09:18 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension Saw this recap over on SR... Bruce Irvin, 4 games, May 2013 Brandon Browner, 4 games, Dec 2012 Richard Sherman, 4 games, Dec 2012 (won on appeal) Winston Guy, 4 games, Nov 2012 Allen Barbre, 4 games, May 2012 John Moffitt, 4 games, Dec 2011 Seattle's 13th man... SaintsBro likes this.

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Schmohams 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 551	Re: Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing.

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AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension Originally Posted by Schmohams We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing. Show me. We just beat Matty (Elite) Ice and his receiving corps, less-one. ;-]] Alaska

11-25-2013, 01:14 AM	#8
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension Originally Posted by Schmohams We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing. The difference is those guys are the strength of their defense, playing man press coverage on the outside is what sets them up for success. see this article Super corners set limits, rest of Seahawks' dominant D fills in gaps - CBSSports.com Our defense on the other hand is set up by the d-line so the secondary guys have a certain amount of slack. Also from the above article, the Saints have a schematic advantage on offense in that they run a lot of bunched sets and tight formations so they can hide some pre-snap reads from the defense and force them to play zone. I think we beat the Seahawks comfortably, maybe by 10 or 13. They haven't seen a team like the Saints yet. I mean, look at their schedule, talk about soft. If we had played that schedule we'd probably be undefeated right now. Halo likes this.
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11-25-2013, 01:34 AM	#9
Marching Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 53	Re: Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension Originally Posted by Schmohams We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing. When you say we have lost 2 of our 3 CBs, do you mean Greer and Patrick Robinson? I agree on Greer, but Robinson is not one of our best CBs. Lewis, Greer, and White are all better than him if you ask me.
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11-25-2013, 07:18 AM	#10
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension Easy to bash on Robinson but he didn't have a chance to prove himself in the new defense. He is a good man-to-man corner and proved it in 2011 in a non-Spagnuolo scheme and IMO was off to a great start this year before the injury. If all were healthy and playing right now IMO Robinson would be the outside corner in the nickel with Greer playing the slot guy and White would be riding pine. The only difference between people's opinions of Robinson and somebody like Hawthorne/Lofton/Jenkins/Galette/etc is that those guys got to redeem themselves now after playing in Spag's crappy scheme and looking terrible. P-Rob never really got the chance. Personaly, I feel like everybody from that Spag defense should get a clean slate b/c now we see the problem clearly wasn't the players, it was the coaching. Halo and Danno like this.
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