Running attack vs. Seahawks defense. Thoughts?
 

We've stepped up our power running game since the Jets game and have been quite effective at blowing some holes open and running through them.

How do ya'll feel our running attack will do against the Seahawks defense??

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Not good.

We'll be about average.

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Maybe better than you think ... we have a healthy stable of backs. Whereas other teams have no depth.

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Better than average. They give up some run defense to control Brees and co.

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Seahawks have been gouged with rushing yards a couple of games this year. I expect that with their secondary woes though that Payton/Brees will do what they do best.

They can't cover everyone...

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Where's TheOak when you need him? We need some cold hard facts and stats up in here!!

I've seen some teams gouge them, I just don't have any stats on hand. I'll wait for TheOak to spruce this thread up.

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The Seahawk game is so next month. I am not going to think about the game.
I am going to reflect on grace

Everyone here on B&G, my family, and friends.
And the underrated and unappreciated Pierre Thomas, a Healthy Sproles and all my Saints.

And as I put the big turkey leg to my lips after my prayers, I will close my eyes and savor the taste of Pacific Northwest Seahawk while I watch the Lions rip the Packets limb to limb.

I look forward to this short break to concentrate on the Grace of God.


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Re: Running attack vs. Seahawks defense. Thoughts?
 

Your best bet is likely Sproles - the two games where we gave up a lot of Rushing Yardage were against smaller backs and the plays were largely delays or up the middle runs where the smaller backs got lost among the big bodies and then burst into the open for a 10 yard or so gain.
Having said this, the 2 games this was a big issue were back to back and seem to have been resolved based on our most recent games.....I wouldn't count on being able to run much...I would look to use those backs, as Brees typically does, in play action - if we are susceptible anywhere it is short middle and when our LB's are in coverage.

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Seattle Seahawks 2013 Statistics - Team and Player Stats - ESPN

Besides Lynch, they have Wilson that scrambles around. That's pretty much it. And they have very average receivers. They allow 115 ypg on defense (not really dominant as claimed). We should be able to move the ball on the ground. Our screen is like a running play anyway. If there is bad weather, it should advantage us as the DBs will not know where the route breaks are. And of course, there is no D for Grambeaux.

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If you simply look at the numbers for the season thus far, the Saints are 23rd best in the league running the ball and Seattle is 15th best in stopping the run... so, slight advantage to Seattle.

In the passing game, the Saints are 2nd best in the league and Seattle's defense against the pass is 2nd best.... so I'll call that a push.

Flipping it around, Seattle is 3rd best in running the ball and the Saints are 14th best in defending the run... advantage Seattle.

And Seattle is 24th best passing the ball and the Saints are 3rd best defending the pass... advantage Saints.

Both teams are excellent in defending the pass. Both teams are middle of the pack in defending the run.

The Saints forte is passing the ball. Seattle's forte is running the ball. No surprise, right? Pretty much what we already knew.

Imo, the outcome of the game will hinge on which team is more effective in establishing their run game and staying with it to the bitter end.

It should be a helluva good game to watch and a credit to both organizations being featured on MNF late in the season.

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Nothing spectacular, but it'll be competent.

Statistically, the 49ers have a better run defense than the Seahawks do, and we ran it well vs the 49ers.

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Excellent analysis but that isn't what you said in the other and I quote: I disagree. Most of the advantages are in the Saints favor.

Last time the teams played in regular season, the Saints spanked the Seattle 34-19 in 2010, and 28-17 in 2008. Yes, Seattle won the playoff game in 2010 but I think that we'd all agree that game was clearly an aberration. Seattle just got lucky that day.

Seattle has a midget for a QB who has never played in a MNF game before. That's huge. Think "deer in the headlights scared". They also run that Read Option gimmick offense because Wilson can't stay in the pocket and throw the ball effectively like Drew Brees.

Seattle doesn't have a TE who is anywhere near as productive as Jimmy Graham. Hell, Zach Miller even seldom gets to go out for a pass because he's needed to stay on the line and block due to Seattle's inconsistent and weak O-line.

And Seattle's so-called "Legion of Boom" is currently decimated by the injury to Brandon Browner and the fact that his back-up, Walter Thurmond, will be out due to a 4-game suspension.

The Saints have the advantage in this game.

Anyone who tells you different is fooling only themselves.

You are a TROLL!!

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I'd have to say I'm a little less worried now that Seattle is hurting on CB's but as far as running goes. We should be able to get a decent amount. I don't see us gauging them on the ground but maybe Sean has a different plan.

Weather will also change things.

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11 on 11, rain or shine, no excuses here!!

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A different plan, yes.

With the Seahawks digging deep into having to play nickel and dime backs with little or no experience, the Saints will more than likely go pass heavy in this game and mix in the run just enough for the play action to be effective.

45 passes
20 runs

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it will be a battle so get ice in the tubs before half time.

suck them up with a bit of the run . then open them up with pass. then you start getting those nice 6 to 15 yard runs. suckem back up to line and start all over again.

same thing we did with the whiners and the cowgirls

do not get away from the run and go pass happy. as good as we are at it it is not our best game plan. jets and the pats are proof of that

if we get 150 yards rushing we should be looking sweet. 100 or less we are in a bit of trouble. 60 - 40 pass to run should be cool

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Dropping my fantasy bird dinner, I do not appreciate any comments regarding the height of Wilson. This is off limits.

Wilson has made it very clear he is a fan of Drew Brees and Drew is his role model.

Any conversation regarding height and Wilson, just replace Wilson's name with young QB Drew Brees.

Do not get caught spewing double talk and height is double talk.

Now, excuse me as I return to my bird and dressing.
Carry on.

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Didn't Russell train with Brees a little over the off-season? I may be thinking of someone else.

Russell Wilson is one of this leagues future stars, and from everything I gather is a class act. We need more Russell Wilsons and fewer Cam Newtons.

But with that said, I hope we rip his frigging head off this week.

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Have all the backs you want. We need a healthy stable of holes for them to run through.

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To answer the OP question, I think we will run pretty well against Seattle.
Maybe get them to bring ET down to stop the run and throw a few deep.

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PT is on a roll now and running hard. Throw Sproles in there and keep them off balance. Need to script a lot of plays this week and avoid confusion on the line. I think this is going to huge and will take the crowd out of it if we can get up on them and start shutting them down. Very critical we contain Wilson much like we did with Kaperdick.

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It doesn't sound like passing friendly weather so I hope the running game is very apparent that day.

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I'll take 5 wide and short passes over the running game
Why, oh why, does every analyst start every game with _________ has to be able to run. ___________ has to establish a running game. We were 5-0 before we found anything resemling a running game

Go with your strengths: pass blocking and the ball in Brees' hands

to answer the OP question, I don't think we will run well against them, and hope we don't spend too long learning that.
It would be nice to score on the opening drive once in awhile

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I think we can run on that team, unless they're sitting on it. But I think they'll be expecting us to come out running. Might have to stick with the short passing game early.

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Either way, doesn't matter. Drew will either use the run to set up the pass or vice-versa. Their best bet would be to consistently stop the run with a 4 man front and drop everyone else in coverage, but then they'll have to worry about screens. :doh:

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It doesn't have to be a lot, just enough to fully unpack the offense and open up the playbook. I remember we beat the Steelers in '10 with something like 29 yards total rushing; it wasn't about smashing them up the gut, it was about moving certain pieces around on the chess board, using the run and the short pass to move players around and open up other things for Drew to exploit. And that Steeler defense that year was MUCH better than this Seahawks defense this year.

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I'm saying it just misses 100 rushing. The Seahawks with their CB woes will play nickel and have more CBs on the field. Put a 3 receiver look with Jimmy and run draws and screens. This will get lineman and TEs on the CBs and take a little pep out of their step and bring the safety's up which I think could open some deep balls. Also, Sherman is outstanding but he really pushes for the big plays and with productive runs and screens he might eyeball the backfield just long enough to gets Stills behind him.

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Kudos for checking your boy, :neutral:.

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I said at the beginning of the season that if we could keep PT in the backfield for a large majority of the snaps that it would help our running game a lot. It leaves the other teams guessing what we are going to do. I think we have sort of seen that with Sproles being out.

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I fully expect that. Maxwell can play the Slot or be a CB but now that he has taken over for Thurmond, I expect to see a healthy dose of Sproles. Do you guys have a speed burner who beats teams deep?

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He is not our boy, if you read his posts he plays both sides of the fence..

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Our run game suffers because it is so predictable. I don't need to tell you guys what that means.

They've been studying the SAME Saints run-game film and they know the patterns. If we stick to them, Drew will have a long day because his adjustments at the snap will be limited. (Crowd noise)

We will need TWO key takeaways to win this game and our D needs to stay off the field.

The fan-impact-plays for the Seahawks will get the best of us if we don't change the way we have been doing business.

SHOCK and AWE

Alaska

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WHOA

Feel free, Seahawks12th, to build yourself a "family crest" like Slomotion and include Black and Gold!

This post made my day!

I was there in '08 and again in '10. They were two entirely different experiences for me but the only consistent element was that the 12th man was LOUD but also CLASSLESS. It's a shame, really, because a team deserves a crowd like yours, but visiting fans do not.

Alaska

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Well, whether you claim him or not and considering he showed up with the rest of Seahawk posse, he's one of yours ... 'kudos' just the same, :mrgreen:.