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dizzle88 11-25-2013 06:37 PM

Another Seahawk Suspension - Brandon Browner
 
Now Brandon Browner is getting done for PED's when he got caught last season, surely the NFL should be investigating the seahawks by now. Whats that, 8 or 9 players so far?

Seattle Seahawks' Brandon Browner faces suspension - NFL.com

SmashMouth 11-25-2013 06:42 PM

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They're falling like flies...

Halo 11-25-2013 06:46 PM

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I thought Browner was injured?

dizzle88 11-25-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 553213)
I thought Browner was injured?

Browner was nursing a groin injury anyway, was not expected to be ready until mid-december, just think its a little weird how many of their players are getting caught taking this stuff

How are we to know that the PED's aren't speeding up his recovery time?

SaintSproles 11-25-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 553213)
I thought Browner was injured?

Injured and on drugs.

The Legend of Shroom lives on.

It was his contract season. Ouch.

SmashMouth 11-25-2013 07:07 PM

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Seahawks.NET - The Voice of the 12th Man! • View topic - Browner suspended a year for PEDs per ESPN? (False report?)

It appears SeaHags are now a bit more worried.

SaintSproles 11-25-2013 07:19 PM

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The Seahawks currently carry only 9 DBs on their 53 man roster.

5 CBs. Two of which won't be available of course for the Saints game.

So they will be forced to play these guys for probably 75 % of the defensive snaps:

Byron Maxwell, 3rd year Clemson
Jeremy Lane, 2nd year NW State (La.)

I expect the Seahawks to play a lot of zone, so I expect the Saints to be scheming for heavy zone defense.

dizzle88 11-25-2013 07:21 PM

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The legion of PED's

ChromeSeahwk 11-25-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 553226)
The Seahawks currently carry only 9 DBs on their 53 man roster.

5 CBs. Two of which won't be available of course for the Saints game.

So they will be forced to play these guys for probably 75 % of the defensive snaps:

Byron Maxwell, 3rd year Clemson
Jeremy Lane, 2nd year NW State (La.)

I expect the Seahawks to play a lot of zone, so I expect the Saints to be scheming for heavy zone defense.

Go back and watch the final 4 games from last year when both Thurmond and Browner were out and Lane and Maxwell were called into duty. You won't see a lot of zone, and I wouldn't expect to see much this year either. Certainly the Saints have a better passing attack than the teams we played then, but we are built to play press man, and even our backups are geared that way.

Jack Vegas 11-25-2013 11:41 PM

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Now tell me this. Sean Payton was suspended for an entire year because of a supposed "Lack of institutional control." Wouldn't ya say, just maybe, that NINE drug suspensions in 2 years is the same thing? Where is Goodell's outrage now?

Luda34 11-26-2013 12:20 AM

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I hope he's not playing

|Mitch| 11-26-2013 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChromeSeahwk (Post 553254)
You won't see a lot of zone, and I wouldn't expect to see much this year either.

Let's see them consistently contain Moore, Stills, Meachem, or Colston strictly in man. But wait, then you have Graham you have to deal with... :doh:

saintsfan1976 11-26-2013 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 553266)
Now tell me this. Sean Payton was suspended for an entire year because of a supposed "Lack of institutional control." Wouldn't ya say, just maybe, that NINE drug suspensions in 2 years is the same thing? Where is Goodell's outrage now?

That was a personal vendetta remember. Payton lied to Ginger Goodell and he wanted to show off his commissioner badge.

spkb25 11-26-2013 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 553266)
Now tell me this. Sean Payton was suspended for an entire year because of a supposed "Lack of institutional control." Wouldn't ya say, just maybe, that NINE drug suspensions in 2 years is the same thing? Where is Goodell's outrage now?

Unless you can demonstrate how it relates to an existing law suit... then douchebag no care

spkb25 11-26-2013 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 553271)
Let's see them consistently contain Moore, Stills, Meachem, or Colston strictly in man. But wait, then you have Graham you have to deal with... :doh:

Um and there is this little guy out of the backfield...

:)

dizzle88 11-26-2013 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 553292)
Um and there is this little guy out of the backfield...

And then the other guy out of the backfield, that guy with a french waiters name that refuses to go down

dueceloose 11-26-2013 06:16 AM

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Marcus Trufant is supposedly being worked out by the Seahawks.. fyi

TheOak 11-26-2013 06:49 AM

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Drew Brees rule #1 - Has trouble with zone.... PLEASE play man.... PLEASE! I encourage you to manthefrik up. Get 1on1 with Graham, Stills, Colston, Sproles.....

dizzle88 11-26-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dueceloose (Post 553295)
Marcus Trufant is supposedly being worked out by the Seahawks.. fyi

Isnt he like 49 years old now?

Jack Vegas 11-26-2013 08:19 AM

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LOL he is so old, he was in the same draft class with Jonathan Sullivan. HAHAHAHA

Danno 11-26-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 553304)
Isnt he like 49 years old now?

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 553309)
LOL he is so old, he was in the same draft class with Jonathan Sullivan. HAHAHAHA

Just remember, we pulled a couple of grandpas off the couch (Mike McKenzie and Chris McAlister) to help us win a Superbowl.

Its not nice to make fun of old people.:p

Jack Vegas 11-26-2013 09:10 AM

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It's funny, I am probably older than like 95% of NFL players and still once a guy hits like 34 I'm like "man he old"

ChromeSeahwk 11-26-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 553271)
Let's see them consistently contain Moore, Stills, Meachem, or Colston strictly in man. But wait, then you have Graham you have to deal with... :doh:

I'm not saying that we are going to lock down all of your receiving threats every play, I'm just saying that our defense is largely built to play press man and to generate quick passes by the QB through a lot of pressure. There will be guys open, it is just a matter of whether Drew will have enough time to get through his progressions to hit that receiver before the defensive pressure gets to him. Drew's a great QB - I expect him to have some success.

Jack Vegas 11-26-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChromeSeahwk (Post 553329)
I'm not saying that we are going to lock down all of your receiving threats every play, I'm just saying that our defense is largely built to play press man and to generate quick passes by the QB through a lot of pressure. There will be guys open, it is just a matter of whether Drew will have enough time to get through his progressions to hit that receiver before the defensive pressure gets to him. Drew's a great QB - I expect him to have some success.

You wouldn't be the first to try. The Saints generally combat press coverage with flare passes to the running backs. If the Seahawks DB's are going to be up on the line, the Saints WR's are in a good position to block right off the snap. Our WR's are all very good blockers, especially Colston and Meachem. You probably don't want to see Sproles/PT catching the ball out of the backfield 20 times in this game, in a lot of ways those two guys are a bigger threat than our wideouts collectively.

In fact I would say playing man coverage is generally a terrible strategy against the Saints offense. Too many mismatches. Unless you have a DB that can actually cover Darren Sproles 1on1, and another that can cover Graham 1on1, and another that can deal with Colston's size, and another that can run with Stills/Moore. If you had all those players you'd probably do OK in that kind of defense. But nobody does, that is why the Saints offense is so successful for the last 8 years.

Generally the defenses that give the Saints the most trouble play deep zone (avoiding the big play to the wideouts), have linebackers that are really, really good in coverage to the edges (containing Sproles and Thoams to as little YAC as possible) and get a ton of pressure up the middle (taking advantage of Brees lack of height, see Jets defense for an example of this) Even then you will still be looking to hold them to something like 17-24 points, and for once in a long time this year the Saints defense actually has the ability to hold teams to less in most games.

Seattle's big advantage here is home field. I do think the noise factor will hurt us a lot in terms of changing plays at the line and so on. Still, the Saints almost certainly will score 17-20 points at least so the onus is on the Seattle offense to get it done here, IMO.

ScottF 11-26-2013 11:05 AM

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We will most likely face them again, so the Browner suspension could be significant

QUESTION- does a suspended player count against the 53 man roster?
That could be a factor if they are trying to sign someone (Trufant, Ronnie Lott, NightTrain Lane, etc). I know the salary still goes against the cap

dizzle88 11-26-2013 12:16 PM

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Whoever they sign one thing is assured;

He'll be on PED's by the end of the week

onanygivenSu 11-26-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 553349)
QUESTION- does a suspended player count against the 53 man roster?

No, he doesn't.

SmashMouth 11-26-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 553271)
Let's see them consistently contain Moore, Stills, Meachem, or Colston strictly in man. But wait, then you have Graham you have to deal with... :doh:

But wait... they forgot about Sproles.

Pick your poison, ladies.:mrgreen:


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