Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite

Rell&Gold · 12-04-2013, 02:26 PM

Patriots Played press against our offense and we stalled, didn't watch the jets game but I'm pretty sure they did too & the Seahawks on Monday night even jimmy graham isn't as productive when he gets pressed, Where is Colston, Lance, Kenny, Nick Toon? Can anybody not name Jimmy Graham get separation from db's. With that being said our line still has to play better but even when Drew had time in the pocket Monday night NOBODY was open. I'm starting to think we need a true #1 WR who can do it ALL I'm a huge fan of Colston & Co. I think they're undderated or are they because when the game gets physicall they disappear Maybe I'm wrong but we wil find out sooner or later

TheOak · 12-04-2013, 02:35 PM

Playing Press against us tells me they do not fear any speed from our receivers, a check at the line of scrimmage slows the routs so drew has to hold the ball longer.

Since we have been running the same routes for how many years I can understand why some teams play us that way.

Rell&Gold · 12-04-2013, 02:43 PM

And that's why I think we miss Joe Morgan he was a big play guy who got separation and could catch I just wish Toon would turn it up some notches Like Michael Floyd

Danno · 12-04-2013, 02:49 PM

Cover-2 used to give us fits too, then along came our cover-2 killer Jimmy Graham.

dueceloose · 12-04-2013, 03:00 PM

Joe Morgan is pretty much Kenny Stills both are the deep threat and both have little experience. I'm hoping Sean changes things up.. if we as fans can see ur doing the same ol thing I'm sure the opponent can too.

hagan714 · 12-06-2013, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by dueceloose

Joe Morgan is pretty much Kenny Stills both are the deep threat and both have little experience. I'm hoping Sean changes things up.. if we as fans can see ur doing the same ol thing I'm sure the opponent can too.

Issue #1 can Joe Morgan stay off IR. he does us no good lounging in a whirlpool and riding a bike.

If we are addressing WR help it has to be the need for big tough WR that excels in the middle of the defense and out in the flats. a bigger version of Lance Moore. still waiting on lance to make his impact.

Jack Vegas · 12-06-2013, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Issue #1 can Joe Morgan stay off IR. he does us no good lounging in a whirlpool and riding a bike.

If we are addressing WR help it has to be the need for big tough WR that excels in the middle of the defense and out in the flats. a bigger version of Lance Moore. still waiting on lance to make his impact.

Moore and Colston have both fallen off the map, age + injuries. Colston is SO SLOW these days, it's like those slant routes and buttonhooks that he used to run for easy 10-yard gains are now 3 and 4 yard gains. Not having a true threat at wide receiver is killing us. Whether they are playing zone or man doesn't make a bit of difference. There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of Brees' passes go to the tight ends and running backs.

SaintLeonard · 12-08-2013, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by dueceloose

Joe Morgan is pretty much Kenny Stills both are the deep threat and both have little experience. I'm hoping Sean changes things up.. if we as fans can see ur doing the same ol thing I'm sure the opponent can too.

Stills is a much more complete WR than Morgan imo.

Mardigras9 · 12-04-2013, 03:18 PM

Carolina's DB's struggle and aren't really that good. It's just getting the ball to that point that will be the challenge.

onanygivenSu · 12-04-2013, 03:26 PM

It's simple.

Press coverage throws off the timing of timing routes.

Seattle CBs are good at it... yes, even their backups are good at it.

12-04-2013, 02:35 PM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite Playing Press against us tells me they do not fear any speed from our receivers, a check at the line of scrimmage slows the routs so drew has to hold the ball longer. Since we have been running the same routes for how many years I can understand why some teams play us that way. AlaskaSaints and Rell&Gold like this.

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Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite And that's why I think we miss Joe Morgan he was a big play guy who got separation and could catch I just wish Toon would turn it up some notches Like Michael Floyd Beastmode likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite Cover-2 used to give us fits too, then along came our cover-2 killer Jimmy Graham. Rell&Gold likes this.

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dueceloose 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 957	Re: Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite Joe Morgan is pretty much Kenny Stills both are the deep threat and both have little experience. I'm hoping Sean changes things up.. if we as fans can see ur doing the same ol thing I'm sure the opponent can too. hagan714 and Rell&Gold like this.
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12-06-2013, 09:09 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite Originally Posted by dueceloose Joe Morgan is pretty much Kenny Stills both are the deep threat and both have little experience. I'm hoping Sean changes things up.. if we as fans can see ur doing the same ol thing I'm sure the opponent can too. Issue #1 can Joe Morgan stay off IR. he does us no good lounging in a whirlpool and riding a bike. If we are addressing WR help it has to be the need for big tough WR that excels in the middle of the defense and out in the flats. a bigger version of Lance Moore. still waiting on lance to make his impact.

12-04-2013, 02:26 PM	#1
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite Patriots Played press against our offense and we stalled, didn't watch the jets game but I'm pretty sure they did too & the Seahawks on Monday night even jimmy graham isn't as productive when he gets pressed, Where is Colston, Lance, Kenny, Nick Toon? Can anybody not name Jimmy Graham get separation from db's. With that being said our line still has to play better but even when Drew had time in the pocket Monday night NOBODY was open. I'm starting to think we need a true #1 WR who can do it ALL I'm a huge fan of Colston & Co. I think they're undderated or are they because when the game gets physicall they disappear Maybe I'm wrong but we wil find out sooner or later

12-06-2013, 10:20 AM	#7
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite Originally Posted by hagan714 Issue #1 can Joe Morgan stay off IR. he does us no good lounging in a whirlpool and riding a bike. If we are addressing WR help it has to be the need for big tough WR that excels in the middle of the defense and out in the flats. a bigger version of Lance Moore. still waiting on lance to make his impact. Moore and Colston have both fallen off the map, age + injuries. Colston is SO SLOW these days, it's like those slant routes and buttonhooks that he used to run for easy 10-yard gains are now 3 and 4 yard gains. Not having a true threat at wide receiver is killing us. Whether they are playing zone or man doesn't make a bit of difference. There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of Brees' passes go to the tight ends and running backs. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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12-08-2013, 11:43 AM	#8
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite Originally Posted by dueceloose Joe Morgan is pretty much Kenny Stills both are the deep threat and both have little experience. I'm hoping Sean changes things up.. if we as fans can see ur doing the same ol thing I'm sure the opponent can too. Stills is a much more complete WR than Morgan imo.

12-04-2013, 03:18 PM	#9
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite Carolina's DB's struggle and aren't really that good. It's just getting the ball to that point that will be the challenge. spkb25 likes this.

12-04-2013, 03:26 PM	#10
onanygivenSu Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: In the moment Posts: 44	Re: Press Man Coverage our Kryptonite It's simple. Press coverage throws off the timing of timing routes. Seattle CBs are good at it... yes, even their backups are good at it.

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