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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal 2nd and 3 is still second down. If it were 2nd and 1 then you probably should take the play. But by taking the down we end up losing a yard on the next play and ...

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Old 12-09-2013, 12:21 AM   #1
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Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart

Originally Posted by burningmetal View Post
2nd and 3 is still second down. If it were 2nd and 1 then you probably should take the play. But by taking the down we end up losing a yard on the next play and have 3rd and 4 instead of second 2nd and 11. the extra down is a much bigger deal than the yardage. Essentially he traded a down for two yards. That's a bad deal.
If you had a 1st and 10, and then got 7 yards on that first down play to make it 2nd down and 3, you would be pretty happy with that result, no?

The fact that we lost yardage on the 2nd down and 3 attempt doesn't make it the wrong decision.

(Don't get me wrong, I would've taken the penalty yardage too. In fact I was screaming at the TV. I'm just saying, once I settled down and thought about it, I can see why he made the choice he did).
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Old 12-09-2013, 12:26 AM   #2
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If you had a 1st and 10, and then got 7 yards on that first down play to make it 2nd down and 3, you would be pretty happy with that result, no?

The fact that we lost yardage on the 2nd down and 3 attempt doesn't make it the wrong decision.

(Don't get me wrong, I would've taken the penalty yardage too. In fact I was screaming at the TV. I'm just saying, once I settled down and thought about it, I can see why he made the choice he did).
If we get 7 yards i'm happy. If we have the option to get a first down for just two less yards, I'm taking that option without hesitation.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:47 AM   #3
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If we get 7 yards i'm happy. If we have the option to get a first down for just two less yards, I'm taking that option without hesitation.
Turning that logic, would you trade the 2 yards for a first down instead?
In almost all cases, yes.
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