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arsaint 12-10-2013 03:37 PM

Playoff scenarios (bring some aspirin)
 
OK - here's an exhaustive look at where we will land in the playoffs. More than you every wanted to know...



#1 seed

Two opportunities still for #1 seed, but both would require Seattle collapse.

a) Saints win out to finish 13-3, Seattle loses 2 of 3 (@NYG, ARZ, STL) to finish 12-4

b) Saints win any two of three remaining games and finish 12-4. Seattle loses out to finish 11-5



#2 seed

a) Saints win out. This happens and #2 is as low as we go.

b) Saints win any two of the three remaining games. This happens and #2 is as low as we go.

c) Saints beat only the Panthers. Eagles lose any 1 game (@MIN, CHI, @DAL)

d) Saints beat only Bucs OR Rams. Panthers lose 1 game (NYJ or @ATL). Eagles lose any 1 game (@MIN, CHI, @DAL)

f) Saints finishes 0-3. Seattle finishes 0-3. Dallas wins out to win East at 10-6. Eagles lose to Cowboys and either Bears or Vikings to finish 1-2. Panthers lose to NYJ and @ATL to finish 1-2.



#3 seed

Only way this happens is if the Saints finish 1-2 with the only win against Carolina and the Eagles win out and finish 11-5, beating Saints on NFC record tiebreaker (10-2 vs 9-3). Eagles would then be #2 seed.



#4 seed

Supposedly there is a less than 1% chance that Saints could be #4 seed, but I can't find it. Must use common opponents or strength of schedule tiebreakers that CURRENTLY favor the Saints, but could change...



#5 seed

Only way this happens is if the Saints finish 0-3, the Bears beat the Eagles in week 16, and the 49ers lose two of their last three games (@TB, ATL, @Arz)



#6 seed

Only way for the Saints to be the #6 seed is for the Saints to finish 0-3 and for the Bears to beat the Eagles in Week 16.




MISSING THE PLAYOFFS


There is ONE scenario for the Saints to miss out completely on the playoffs and it involves:

a) Saints lose out
b) Panthers beat either Jets or Falcons, in addition to Saints
c) Cowboys win out and wins NFC East
d) Eagles beat the Bears and Vikings. We would lose out on #6 to them due to NFC record (9-3 vs 8-4).

exile 12-10-2013 03:40 PM

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My head is spinning. Here is an interesting fact though:

"One of the most surprising parts of this NFL season is that the four teams with the worst records in the league — Houston, Atlanta, Washington and Minnesota — were all in the playoffs last season. Fans of three of those teams at least have the ability to daydream about what their teams can do with next year’s first-round pick. Fans in Washington don’t even have the draft to console them as they trudge through a miserable December."

Washington-Atlanta a big game for NFL draft order | ProFootballTalk

Beastmode 12-10-2013 03:50 PM

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No playoffs would take some serious bad luck. I would even say our chances of Seattle losing two are better than no playoffs. If the Cowboys win out that means Obamacare is working flawlessly and Arial Sharone popped out of the coma.

Choupique 12-10-2013 04:07 PM

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c) Cowboys win out and wins NFC East
bwhahahahaha!

yea, that'll happen.

Choupique 12-10-2013 04:08 PM

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they should let jacksonville, atlanta, houston and washington play some college teams.

hagan714 12-10-2013 07:14 PM

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win thats all

alleycat_126 12-10-2013 08:46 PM

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I cant wait for you to reveal the plan once we get in.... I actually am liking the 2 seed... With San Fran dragging up the 6....

Srgt. Hulka 12-10-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 558726)
c) Cowboys win out and wins NFC East

bwhahahahaha!

yea, that'll happen.

LMAO, that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sooooo, if the Cowboys lose one game we're in the playoffs? That's funny right there.
:bng:

Mr.Riaton 12-10-2013 09:44 PM

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We also have a chance of seaturds losing first playoff game which would give us homefield throughout playoffs(assuming we're #2 seed).

arsaint 12-10-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 558830)
We also have a chance of seaturds losing first playoff game which would give us homefield throughout playoffs(assuming we're #2 seed).

I can see Carolina or SF upsetting them in the Divisional round

nola_swammi 12-11-2013 02:26 AM

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Here is a better way to play with scenarios


NFL - Playoff Scenario Generator- Yahoo Sports

Srgt. Hulka 12-11-2013 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 558864)
Here is a better way to play with scenarios


NFL - Playoff Scenario Generator- Yahoo Sports

That's pretty cool.

the-commish 12-11-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 558814)
I cant wait for you to reveal the plan once we get in.... I actually am liking the 2 seed... With San Fran dragging up the 6....

San Fran probably won't be the 6 seed if the Saints win out; they would probably be the 5 seed. That would mean Carolina would be the 6 seed (unless Arizona beats San Fran in Week 17--but Arizona will probably be out of contention by that time as they will lose at Seattle).

As a 6 seed, I think Carolina would lose to 3 seed Philadelphia (although they would beat the Cowboys if Dallas happens to luck up and win the NFC East).

ScottF 12-11-2013 10:53 AM

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easier:

http://blackandgold.com/saints/62642...ff-update.html

SaintsBro 12-11-2013 11:03 AM

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I think the Eagles in Seattle in the playoffs is just as intriguing as Carolina in Seattle or SF in Seattle. I wouldn't discount them. The Eagles are not a dominant team but if they and that offense are firing at 100% they can be pretty scary. And they're good on the road; better on the road than the Saints.

exile 12-11-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 558948)
I think the Eagles in Seattle in the playoffs is just as intriguing as Carolina in Seattle or SF in Seattle. I wouldn't discount them. The Eagles are not a dominant team but if they and that offense are firing at 100% they can be pretty scary. And they're good on the road; better on the road than the Saints.

The Eagles lack a defense though. If they draft well watch out next year.

SaintsBro 12-11-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 558950)
The Eagles lack a defense though. If they draft well watch out next year.

They are getting better on D even just this year....the Eagles D has had nine straight games of 21 points or fewer. Again, I'm not sunshine pumping them, but I do think they have some matchups that would be favorable against the Seahawks, since everyone is rooting for some team to take the Hawks out of the playoffs before the Saints have to go out there again.

TheOak 12-11-2013 12:57 PM

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Look at who the Eagles have played.... Cardinals, Packers (Wo Rodgers), Raiders, Skins, Giants..

If played today Seahawks will get the lowest winning seed, we will get the highest winning seed. Giving the Seahawks the 49ers and us the Panthers again.

I just do not see the Eagles taking out the 49ers in any wildcard round.

TheOak 12-11-2013 01:19 PM

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WOPR approves of the OP scenarios
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ScottF 12-11-2013 01:51 PM

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right now the two wild cards are the stronger teams of the 4 in the divisional round
biggest factor will be Philly's weather
if seeds hold and SF and Carolina win, we would host Carolina, with SF going to Seattle----
Good match-ups for us

the-commish 12-11-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 558948)
I think the Eagles in Seattle in the playoffs is just as intriguing as Carolina in Seattle or SF in Seattle. I wouldn't discount them. The Eagles are not a dominant team but if they and that offense are firing at 100% they can be pretty scary. And they're good on the road; better on the road than the Saints.

the Eagles are likely to be the 3 seed; thus, they cannot play at Seattle before the NFCCG (i.e. that would mean the Saints had already been eliminated).

WillSaints81 12-11-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the-commish (Post 558934)
San Fran probably won't be the 6 seed if the Saints win out; they would probably be the 5 seed. That would mean Carolina would be the 6 seed (unless Arizona beats San Fran in Week 17--but Arizona will probably be out of contention by that time as they will lose at Seattle).

As a 6 seed, I think Carolina would lose to 3 seed Philadelphia (although they would beat the Cowboys if Dallas happens to luck up and win the NFC East).


Funny, I think the opposite.

WillSaints81 12-11-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 558948)
I think the Eagles in Seattle in the playoffs is just as intriguing as Carolina in Seattle or SF in Seattle. I wouldn't discount them. The Eagles are not a dominant team but if they and that offense are firing at 100% they can be pretty scary. And they're good on the road; better on the road than the Saints.


Eagles cannot go to Seattle in the playoffs because they have h2h tiebreaker over the lions. If eagles were to go 10-6, they'd still be the 3 seed if they beat Dallas. I just don't see them losing to the vikings. And if they end up 9-7 that means they lost to Chicago and Dallas and I don't think Dallas will lose both the next two against two teams not getting in. so if eagles get out of wild card round, they are playing us.

Tbh, I hope we win this week and lose to Carolina. Just because I wouldnt want to have to play them four weeks later if we sweep them but I feel we're sweeping them. Lions hung well with eagles for a half before eagles ran over them second half. Could they hang with Seattle in C-Link?

Choupique 12-11-2013 04:34 PM

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seachickens aren't that good.
they just think they are.

redemption is best served cold.
third time is the charm.


this is going to be fun, no matter what happens.

ya'know why? you aren't an atlanta fan.

Danno 12-11-2013 06:18 PM

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I'm thinking (or hoping) the beatdown on Carolina is the start of their 1-3 meltdown to end the season, and Arizona boots those Appalachian slopeheads out of the playoffs altogether. Arizona owns the tie-breaker over Carolina, after stomping that pompous panther ass 22-6 in October. :p

This is setting up quite nicely if you ask me.

Vrillon82 12-11-2013 10:42 PM

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Its not out of the realm of possibility that Seattle drops 2 of the next 3 and finishes 12-4.

Its all for the fact that they heading to NY which you never know what the Giants will do, then 2 games vs division opponents.

I am trying to be optimistic here though, I just am waiting for the real Seattle Seahawks to show up like the real Falcons showed up this season.

the-commish 12-11-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 559036)
Funny, I think the opposite.

But the fact is that, if both the Saints and 49ers win out (which is highly possible) the 49ers will get the 5 seed. That is because Carolina will have lost to the Saints again, and will have a worse record than the 49ers (thus Carolina's tiebreaker advantage will not come into effect).

ScottF 12-12-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 559120)
Its not out of the realm of possibility that Seattle drops 2 of the next 3 and finishes 12-4.

Its all for the fact that they heading to NY which you never know what the Giants will do, then 2 games vs division opponents.

I am trying to be optimistic here though, I just am waiting for the real Seattle Seahawks to show up like the real Falcons showed up this season.

The good/bad news is that we will probably know before the last game where we stand.

arsaint 12-12-2013 11:54 AM

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If the 49ers and Eagles both blow their easy games at Noon, the Saints would clinch before the game vs the Rams begins...

WillSaints81 12-13-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 559120)
Its not out of the realm of possibility that Seattle drops 2 of the next 3 and finishes 12-4.

Its all for the fact that they heading to NY which you never know what the Giants will do, then 2 games vs division opponents.

I am trying to be optimistic here though, I just am waiting for the real Seattle Seahawks to show up like the real Falcons showed up this season.

That will probably be next year.

saintsfan403 12-13-2013 10:54 PM

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So if Carolina somehow loses this weekend and we win, does that mean we at least have our division locked down?

Danno 12-14-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 559501)
So if Carolina somehow loses this weekend and we win, does that mean we at least have our division locked down?

Yes

ScottF 12-14-2013 08:19 AM

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most 'what-ifs' will be cleared up by 730 EST tomorrow
if SEA beats the Giants, they are #1
if we win, we will win the south

not mathematically clinched, but highly unlikely otherwise

the-commish 12-14-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 559501)
So if Carolina somehow loses this weekend and we win, does that mean we at least have our division locked down?

Um, NO. The Saints would have a two game lead, with 2 games to play, but Carolina could still tie record-wise. And if they do, the first tiebreaker would be head-to-head, which would still be tied. The second tiebreaker would be division record (not conference record, since the two teams are in the SAME division); Carolina would be 5-1, the Saints would be 4-2. Carolina would win the division.


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