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WhoDat!656 12-10-2013 05:11 PM

Saints secondary say they are now gaining a 'swagger about us'
 
The New Orleans Saints defensive secondary managed to successfully guard the Carolina Panthers receivers Brandon LaFell, Steve Smith and Ted Ginn Jr. while the Saints opened up an 24-6 lead.

QB Cam Newton only reliable target was TE Greg Olsen as the Saints went on to a 31-13 win.

The performance by the secondary came six days after Seattle quarterback Russell Wilson and his receivers shredded the Saints.

"I think we were confident last night, had a sense of swagger about us," Saints veteran safety Roman Harper said, via Terrance Harris of NOLA.com.

"We played together."

"I talked to the guys earlier about last week. We seemed like we played sometimes for ourselves, and when you are playing defense it's about playing for the guy next to you, it's all about being together. The tightest group is the group that wins on defense. We have to be able to do for each other."

"It goes hand in hand," said Saints coach Sean Payton.

"I thought we did a good job of keeping the players in front of us, No. 1. The big plays Carolina has the potential of hitting you with (are) where they get behind your defense in the passing game. They do a good job running the football and you can all of sudden getting consumed with forcing the run and then there is a Ted Ginn, or LaFell or Steve Smith splitting your secondary, but I thought we kept the ball in front of us. We contested a lot of throws and broke up a lot of passes, and that was pleasing.

"Overall, it goes hand in hand, and I think there are coverage sacks just like there are hurries that help the back end."

Saints secondary say they are now gaining a 'swagger about us'

SmashMouth 12-10-2013 05:13 PM

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Shoulda had that for Seattle.

|Mitch| 12-10-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 558749)
Shoulda had that for Seattle.

Would it have mattered? We could do nothing offensively...

SmashMouth 12-10-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558750)
Would it have mattered? We could do nothing offensively...

Well as aptly stated in another thread, they were grabbing on every play...

Choupique 12-10-2013 05:27 PM

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they'll be teeing off on the next three teams in preparation for the playoffs.

count on it.

our D is going to shock the world.

two dat.

Jack Vegas 12-10-2013 06:10 PM

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The thing I loved is that we were able to shut down Steve Smith and Ginn. Those are the kind of receivers that give us trouble especially without Greer's agility. I like White more and more as a guy who can cover the big #2 wideouts on the outside.

|Mitch| 12-10-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 558781)
Those are the kind of receivers that give us trouble especially without Greer's agility.

I may be in the minority here, but I think White covers better than Greer has this year...

A lot more physical as well

Beastmode 12-10-2013 06:50 PM

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Big picture, a new DC with a lot of new faces...odds of making the playoffs are low. I did the math, about 20%, can't remember the number but it was awful. I thought best case we win 10 and that's best effort; no wiggle room. We have a serious shot at eclipsing that without a doubt. The scary part is imagining putting this crew back together and tweaking it a little more. Brees is great but nobody is going to want to face our defense. Brees is going to be on auto pilot.

TheOak 12-10-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558782)
I may be in the minority here, but I think White covers better than Greer has this year...



A lot more physical as well


Grab a chair...... We can sit in the White section together.

I want to see White, Vaccaro, and Hawthorn crush someone's receiver. All three of them thump. Best part about it is when I was browsing google looking for pics of him playing, all his thumps are form tackles.

hagan714 12-10-2013 07:10 PM

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funny what having your jock strap pulled over your head does to ya

Jack Vegas 12-10-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558782)
I may be in the minority here, but I think White covers better than Greer has this year...

I like him on the outside guy playing bump and run, jamming at the line and otherwise being physical against the big outside receivers. He definitely does that better than Greer. I think Greer would be the inside/slot CB at this point matching up against the small/quick guys which it feels like we are maybe a little vulnerable to. It will be interesting to see who they try to match up on Tavon Austin.

halloween 65 12-10-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558782)
I may be in the minority here, but I think White covers better than Greer has this year...

A lot more physical as well

White is playing good ball, I think he stays the starter for years.Very deceptive and physical, just how it should be. I think he has the potental to be a shut down corner. I like him.

Mr.Riaton 12-10-2013 09:24 PM

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I remember when he was a rookie,before training camp even started, he was making comments about how he couldn't wait to pick Brees off a few times in practice. I remember thinking that this guy was one of those arrogant late round s**t talkers who cant back it up and probably wont last long on this team. It only took a few games and I saw why they picked this guy up. I really like him and I think he will be a good player for us for years to come.

Mr.Riaton 12-10-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 558797)
Grab a chair...... We can sit in the White section together.

I want to see White, Vaccaro, and Hawthorn crush someone's receiver. All three of them thump. Best part about it is when I was browsing google looking for pics of him playing, all his thumps are form tackles.

Dont forget Bush...ol boy can bring some wood too!

Jack Vegas 12-10-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 558824)
I remember when he was a rookie,before training camp even started, he was making comments about how he couldn't wait to pick Brees off a few times in practice. I remember thinking that this guy was one of those arrogant late round s**t talkers who cant back it up and probably wont last long on this team. It only took a few games and I saw why they picked this guy up. I really like him and I think he will be a good player for us for years to come.

Yeah, White has some gumption for a young dude. I love his toughness and playing style which is actually real similar to Keenan. Wishing we had Greer back is certainly no bash on how White has played overall.

WhoDatFan26 12-11-2013 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558782)
I may be in the minority here, but I think White covers better than Greer has this year...

A lot more physical as well

No, you're not in the minority White does cover better. Where we miss Jabari is the ability to move him into the slot to cover the slot receivers. As good as M.Jenkins and K. Vaccarro are, they aren't used to doing such on a consistent basis.

hagan714 12-11-2013 09:01 AM

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Corey is just getting his feet wet on the outside and so far i say let him stay out there and get the reps. he has not hurt us so in the long run, it will only make the team better

rezburna 12-11-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558782)
I may be in the minority here, but I think White covers better than Greer has this year...

A lot more physical as well

I agree. Greer gets exploited due to his size and diminishing speed. I can't wait to see us when we get P.Rob back. 3 big corners with speed. Vacarro, Jenkins, Harper/Bush on the back end.

xan 12-11-2013 09:38 AM

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please stop talking. I don't give a **** about swagger. If you don't win, you ain't got no reason, and if you do win, it wasn't because you "swaggered", it's because you did your freaking job.

so just shut up.

Choupique 12-11-2013 09:48 AM

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our defense is playing well.

i'll always respect greer. i like that new CW kid a lot.
plays with a ton of heart.

our new D coach Ryan was turned down by the goats, during his five minutes of interviews.

they told him his scheme didn't fit in the land of goats.

the last time we played the RAMS, they sure left a sour taste in the mouth of every Saint related human being in the galaxy.

our defense is gearing into playoff mode, right before your eyes, however...

and the past is the past, and will have no bearing on this game other than perhaps motivation.

the Saints are going to tee off on the rams. you watch.

check out the stats on the rams QB
(# of sacks, INTs, etc)

shock the world. two dat.

Rugby Saint II 12-11-2013 01:34 PM

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Where was that swagger week before last against the Seahawks?

Cruize 12-11-2013 03:07 PM

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Swagger is good. Real good. Just make sure you can cover as well.

Choupique 12-11-2013 04:41 PM

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they're becoming comfortable in the rob ryan scheme

it is becoming second nature.

the sack count is going to explode.

you heard it here. two dat.

Choupique 12-11-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 559000)
Where was that swagger week before last against the Seahawks?

think of it as a fist fight.

noone wins ever single fight. ever.



grown men can impose their will on each other.

that can change from sunday to any given sunday, who might win.

even the falcons, texans and jaguars beat someone this year, as an example.





i can't wait to see the saints play the seachickens again.

damn i hope it is in their stadium.

Danno 12-11-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 559018)
Swagger is good. Real good. Just make sure you can cover as well.

Thats the truth. Swagger is fine, just back it up.


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