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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Donuts32 I don't feel sorry for kickers that can't make a 29 yarder. Yes he was clutch in 2009 but was a head case. I'm happy that he is gone but sad that our ST coach Greg ...

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Old 12-17-2013, 07:50 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by Donuts32 View Post
I don't feel sorry for kickers that can't make a 29 yarder. Yes he was clutch in 2009 but was a head case. I'm happy that he is gone but sad that our ST coach Greg Mcmahon is still hired.
Yea we are really poor in the ST area which is one of the most important aspects all we really got going is a good punter
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Yea we are really poor in the ST area which is one of the most important aspects all we really got going is a good punter
I thought early on that special teams play will determine how far we get in the playoffs.

I am not sad to see him go one single bit. He made 2 decent kicks our Super Bowl year and thats the ONLY reason hes been around this long. He has ridden on the coat tails of those kicks ever since. That goes for any player, like Vilma. I dont care how far your play gets us, when your done producing you should be gone and replaced by someone who can. Screw this "Oh we owe him because he helped us get to the Super Bowl jibber jabber. I will say the same thing with Brees when his time comes. When it comes time where someone else can do a better job then see ya. Thankfully that wont be for a long long time.

Doesnt mean I dont apprieciate what they have done, but if we arent constantly trying to get better at every position, every year, we wont get back to where we want to be.
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I thought early on that special teams play will determine how far we get in the playoffs.

I am not sad to see him go one single bit. He made 2 decent kicks our Super Bowl year and thats the ONLY reason hes been around this long. He has ridden on the coat tails of those kicks ever since. That goes for any player, like Vilma. I dont care how far your play gets us, when your done producing you should be gone and replaced by someone who can. Screw this "Oh we owe him because he helped us get to the Super Bowl jibber jabber. I will say the same thing with Brees when his time comes. When it comes time where someone else can do a better job then see ya. Thankfully that wont be for a long long time.

Doesnt mean I dont apprieciate what they have done, but if we arent constantly trying to get better at every position, every year, we wont get back to where we want to be.
2 decent kicks our Super Bowl year? I can think of half a dozen off the top of my head:

1.The kick that sent the NFCC game to OT
2. The kick that WON the NFCC game
3. The Ambush kick in the Super Bowl
4. The 3 40+ yd FGs he made that kept the Saints in the game and also set a Super Bowl record.
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2 decent kicks our Super Bowl year? I can think of half a dozen off the top of my head:

1.The kick that sent the NFCC game to OT
2. The kick that WON the NFCC game
3. The Ambush kick in the Super Bowl
4. The 3 40+ yd FGs he made that kept the Saints in the game and also set a Super Bowl record.
3 was moorestead
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3 was moorestead
Thanks for the correction
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