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saintsfan1976 12-22-2013 04:02 PM

Payton and Brees post game live
 
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exile 12-22-2013 04:04 PM

Payton and Brees post game live
 
Sucky play calling and sucky passing. Call over.

AlaskaSaints 12-22-2013 05:51 PM

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Sean Payton learned NOTHING from today's loss. I learned plenty.

I'm beginning to think that they don't view losing games on film, just move on to the next challenge.

Pathetic coaching today.

Alaska

pherein 12-22-2013 05:59 PM

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Brees looked confused again at times. Im sure because of the pressure, but throwing picks and giving the opposing team a short field for points in 3 games this year for a loss is ridicules. Brees needs to start throwing the ball away or take the sack. His game management is really bad sometimes. Brees lost this game.
Panthers are not a top NFC team. Their offense is horrible, and if they are in the SB, its assured the AFC with win it.

ScottF 12-22-2013 06:16 PM

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Brees is 17-14 since signing his $100 million contract.
Works out to $2.5 mil per win

ikecomp 12-22-2013 06:41 PM

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I hate to keep piling it on but the fact they he said we played well today including his offense is a slap in the face to fans. If he considers that inconsistent mess of an offense on the road playing well I just don't know what to say. I do agree the defense played well and don't fault them for today's loss. They played their buts off even after losing KV.

Payton and Brees need to look in the mirror if we're going to do anything in the playoffs (if we make the playoffs).

dizzle88 12-23-2013 09:42 AM

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blah blah blah my bank accounts full

blah blah blah we'll say we will learn from our mistakes and probably make the exact same ones again next time etc

Danno 12-23-2013 10:21 AM

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Anyone else kinda tired of seeing our players try to juke everybody for zero yards instead of trying to plow upfield for 4 or 5 more yards?

You don't juke one of the fastest LB corps in the NFL. You cut up-field and take what you can get.

hagan714 12-23-2013 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 563449)
Brees is 17-14 since signing his $100 million contract.
Works out to $2.5 mil per win


ahh the catch 22 when you dump that much money into a QB. lets face facts the saints were not ready to tie that much of the cap into a QB. not saying he is not worth it just saying we did not have the quality of deth to make the move.

another year hand tied before he can restructure the deal. unless drew voids the contract and get a new one.

can they still do that or did the nfl do away with that move?

dizzle88 12-23-2013 10:28 AM

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Brees is an amazing QB and is most of the reason our franchise won a superbowl and has been successful

That being said, his 100 mil has become a detriment to the team and has made it so we cant make a big signing in a key area

We need a stud signing for the O line and brees getting paid has not only stopped us from doing that, but its also put us in a bad situation for jimmy grahams contract

Danno 12-23-2013 10:29 AM

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Brees' contract wasn't the problem. Too much money tied up in Smith, Vilma and Harper was the problem.

Without those 3 big contracts we probably keep Nicks, or likely franchised him.

Brees is the 4th highest paid QB, which is just about where he should be.

Here's where we screwed up...
2014 salaries
Some are still good players, but overpaid in my opinion.
Smith 13.9 million
Evans 11 million
Grubbs 9.1 million
Bunkley 6.1 million
Greer 5.8 million
Harper 5.8 million
Lofton 5.2 million
Moore 5 million
Sproles 4.5 million

hagan714 12-23-2013 10:35 AM

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i not saying it was but the planning was. like you pointed out veteran contracts were killers and will be still. youth needed to deal with the cap issues is mighty thin. thats my point

the over all picture was and still is a mess. we need another year before i can see thing working out cap wise.

dizzle88 12-23-2013 10:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 563799)
Brees' contract wasn't the problem. Too much money tied up in Smith, Vilma and Harper was the problem.

Without those 3 big contracts we probably keep Nicks, or likely franchised him.

Brees is the 4th highest paid QB, which is just about where he should be.

Here's where we screwed up...
2014 salaries
Some are still good players, but overpaid in my opinion.
Smith 13.9 million
Evans 11 million
Grubbs 9.1 million
Bunkley 6.1 million
Greer 5.8 million
Harper 5.8 million
Lofton 5.2 million
Moore 5 million
Sproles 4.5 million

Players I see gone or restructuring next season

Danno 12-23-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 563807)
Players I see gone or restructring next season

I think every player on that list should be restructured or cut.

dizzle88 12-23-2013 10:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 563809)
I think every player on that list should be restructured or cut.

I think brees needs to help out and restructure aswell, he would free up a hell of a lot

Danno 12-23-2013 10:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 563810)
I think brees needs to help out and restructure aswell, he would free up a hell of a lot

I think there's an NFL rule about restructuring too many times. I've heard several people say that the following year (2015) is the year he restructures.

Kryptonite 12-23-2013 11:29 AM

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Yes, every aspect of the offense has sucked badly for the past several weeks. And in the earlier losses it was the offense that let us down also. Even in the loss to Seattle giving up as many points has we did, the offense showed up on only one possession. But to try to put the blame on Brees' contract is a bit of a reach to me. Ok, yeah it may have prevented us from signing "big time" OL free agents, etc, but guess what? If you are an OL, I need you to do OL sh*t. If you are an LB I need you to do LB sh*t! If you are a WR I need you to do WR sh*t! They are all professionals, and you may not be the best in the business but gosh dang it act like you know the business. DO SOMETHING!!!!

UK_WhoDat 12-23-2013 12:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 563795)
Anyone else kinda tired of seeing our players try to juke everybody for zero yards instead of trying to plow upfield for 4 or 5 more yards?

You don't juke one of the fastest LB corps in the NFL. You cut up-field and take what you can get.

True.

We so telegraph our intended running plays too.

exile 12-23-2013 01:16 PM

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Time to light it up.


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