I am almost done with Payton

WhoDat!656 · 12-22-2013, 04:51 PM

We would be at least 3 games better if he got his head out of his arse!

Euphoria · 12-22-2013, 05:21 PM

I am finally joining this band wagon... its Sean's fault.

Although its always the HC's fault IMO But I give him a break because of the gutsy calls in the past.

HOWEVER!!! Where are the gutsy calls now. Pats game same thing... I am a big believer if you don't want the other team to win, THEN DON"T GIVE THEM THE BALL.

Should have played for the 1st down

ikecomp · 12-22-2013, 05:27 PM

I'm nowhere near done with payton the head coach however I've almost had my fill of payton the playcaller.

AlaskaSaints · 12-22-2013, 05:32 PM

This offense is a MESS.
That was painful. I'm no football genius and called about half of our plays out before the snap.

We played to win on defense and played to lose on offense.

But we've found a kicker for now.

Alaska

ssvnewman · 12-22-2013, 05:34 PM

I do not think you can lay the blame on Payton, you have to remember what it was like before he came to the Saints! We were the laughing stock of the NFC . I put most of the blame on an offensive line that can not pass block , can not run block and seems to cause penalties at the worst time . Going to have to do some real soul searching on that offensive line during the off season and come back next year with a more balanced attack and take some of the pressure off of Drew! Just my opinion!

ikecomp · 12-22-2013, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by ssvnewman

I do not think you can lay the blame on Payton, you have to remember what it was like before he came to the Saints! We were the laughing stock of the NFC . I put most of the blame on an offensive line that can not pass block , can not run block and seems to cause penalties at the worst time . Going to have to do some real soul searching on that offensive line during the off season and come back next year with a more balanced attack and take some of the pressure off of Drew! Just my opinion!

Unfortunately, non of that is going to change until next season so it's on the head coach and play caller (one in the same) to put his players in the best position to succeed. He's not doing that.

pherein · 12-22-2013, 05:53 PM

I really dont think payton is the problem. The screen is designed to tire out the DL and relieve pressure. Panthers LB's are to quick. The screens were not executed well or blocked well. Same with the run plays.
Really didnt matter what payton called, the offense could not do it anyway.

WhoDat!656 · 12-22-2013, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

I really dont think payton is the problem. The screen is designed to tire out the DL and relieve pressure. Panthers LB's are to quick. The screens were not executed well or blocked well. Same with the run plays.
Really didnt matter what payton called, the offense could not do it anyway.

Then why keep calling them?

Ingram was getting around 8 yds a carry and he gets pulled.

ikecomp · 12-22-2013, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Then why keep calling them?

Ingram was getting around 8 yds a carry and he gets pulled.

To be fair though he left with a injury for a little bit. By the time he got back in the game we were already playing not to lose so all of the plays called for him at that point were predictable.

pherein · 12-22-2013, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Then why keep calling them?

Ingram was getting around 8 yds a carry and he gets pulled.

I dont think they were called to be honest. Just a theory, but the pressure was so bad, I think they started adding a screen as an option, and Brees used that option instead of throwing down field. I saw the Wr's going down field in patterns and not blocking. So, thats all I can come up with.
If we did call that many screens on purpose, I am wondering more, where was the blocking ? PT was infront of most of the blockers it seemed. Though I might be remembering wrong.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: I am almost done with Payton I am finally joining this band wagon... its Sean's fault. Although its always the HC's fault IMO But I give him a break because of the gutsy calls in the past. HOWEVER!!! Where are the gutsy calls now. Pats game same thing... I am a big believer if you don't want the other team to win, THEN DON"T GIVE THEM THE BALL. Should have played for the 1st down

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: I am almost done with Payton I'm nowhere near done with payton the head coach however I've almost had my fill of payton the playcaller. ScottF likes this.
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AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: I am almost done with Payton This offense is a MESS. That was painful. I'm no football genius and called about half of our plays out before the snap. We played to win on defense and played to lose on offense. But we've found a kicker for now. Alaska Ashley likes this.

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ssvnewman Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 38	Re: I am almost done with Payton I do not think you can lay the blame on Payton, you have to remember what it was like before he came to the Saints! We were the laughing stock of the NFC . I put most of the blame on an offensive line that can not pass block , can not run block and seems to cause penalties at the worst time . Going to have to do some real soul searching on that offensive line during the off season and come back next year with a more balanced attack and take some of the pressure off of Drew! Just my opinion!
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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: I am almost done with Payton Originally Posted by ssvnewman I do not think you can lay the blame on Payton, you have to remember what it was like before he came to the Saints! We were the laughing stock of the NFC . I put most of the blame on an offensive line that can not pass block , can not run block and seems to cause penalties at the worst time . Going to have to do some real soul searching on that offensive line during the off season and come back next year with a more balanced attack and take some of the pressure off of Drew! Just my opinion! Unfortunately, non of that is going to change until next season so it's on the head coach and play caller (one in the same) to put his players in the best position to succeed. He's not doing that.
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12-22-2013, 05:53 PM	#7
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I am almost done with Payton I really dont think payton is the problem. The screen is designed to tire out the DL and relieve pressure. Panthers LB's are to quick. The screens were not executed well or blocked well. Same with the run plays. Really didnt matter what payton called, the offense could not do it anyway. TheKillerBs likes this.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: I am almost done with Payton Originally Posted by pherein I really dont think payton is the problem. The screen is designed to tire out the DL and relieve pressure. Panthers LB's are to quick. The screens were not executed well or blocked well. Same with the run plays. Really didnt matter what payton called, the offense could not do it anyway. Then why keep calling them? Ingram was getting around 8 yds a carry and he gets pulled. ScottF, dizzle88 and MarchingOn like this.

12-22-2013, 06:32 PM	#9
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: I am almost done with Payton Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Then why keep calling them? Ingram was getting around 8 yds a carry and he gets pulled. To be fair though he left with a injury for a little bit. By the time he got back in the game we were already playing not to lose so all of the plays called for him at that point were predictable.
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12-22-2013, 06:40 PM	#10
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I am almost done with Payton Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Then why keep calling them? Ingram was getting around 8 yds a carry and he gets pulled. I dont think they were called to be honest. Just a theory, but the pressure was so bad, I think they started adding a screen as an option, and Brees used that option instead of throwing down field. I saw the Wr's going down field in patterns and not blocking. So, thats all I can come up with. If we did call that many screens on purpose, I am wondering more, where was the blocking ? PT was infront of most of the blockers it seemed. Though I might be remembering wrong.

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