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lynwood 12-23-2013 05:38 PM

Some ungrateful Who Dats should remember
 
In the eight seasons before Brees arrived, the Saints had seven starting quarterbacks. Here are some names that strike fear into Who Dat Nation: Kerry Collins, Danny Wuerffel, Billy Joe Tolliver, Billy Joe Hobert, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Blake and Aaron Brooks. Looking back a little further reveals names like Jim Everett, Doug Nussmeier, Wade Wilson, Mike Buck and Steve Walsh.


Scott Walker: Some ungrateful Who Dats should remember ghosts of Saints

cmsaint 12-23-2013 05:54 PM

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Thank you for the reminder. We have become very spoiled as a whole. That being said, Brees needs to get back to his fan base spoiling ways.

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bobdog86 12-23-2013 06:00 PM

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Bingo, remember Tampa won the SB a couple years ago, go to that Forum, Wanna talk about misery and the 7th level of Hell. Some folks need to look at the big picture. Not a day goes by i don't appreciate where our franchise is, too many years if the Guido Merkens/Danny Woeful/Chrissy Everetts. Big picture Baby!

Danno 12-23-2013 06:06 PM

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Didn't need the reminder, but thanks for pointing out how lucky we are to have Drew Brees on this team.

About 25 other teams would trade their QB for him straight up without blinking an eye.

Srgt. Hulka 12-23-2013 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 564006)
Didn't need the reminder, but thanks for pointing out how lucky we are to have Drew Brees on this team.

About 25 other teams would trade their QB for him straight up without blinking an eye.

^^^This^^^

:bng:

MaggieMayTB 12-23-2013 06:15 PM

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We are grateful. Don't mistake ungrateful for disappointed.
We are just feeling the emotion allowed other NFL fans after a loss.
This is a luxury we are unfamiliar with experiencing.

Also, this is our house. We keep the sadness within and console each other.

We are blessed.
Drew Brees is still walking and playing.
Carry on.

saintsfan1976 12-23-2013 06:16 PM

Re: Some ungrateful Who Dats should remember
 
Danno -

Denver
Green Bay
Seattle
New England
Indy

All I could come up with.

Atlanta!! Oh yeah, forgot..

WhoDat!656 12-23-2013 06:17 PM

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Why is Jeff Blake on that list?

He is the best QB the Saints have had that wasn't named Drew Brees.

saintsfan1976 12-23-2013 06:18 PM

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And it's O K to be frustrated and pissed and moan and complain here. that's what this place is for. And come Monday someone puts the wind back in our sails and we're optimistic again.

that's why i love it here.

MaggieMayTB 12-23-2013 06:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 564017)
And it's O K to be frustrated and pissed and moan and complain here. that's what this place is for. And come Monday someone puts the wind back in our sails and we're optimistic again.

that's why i love it here.

EXACTLY

WhoDat!656 12-23-2013 06:24 PM

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It is like this!

Danno 12-23-2013 06:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 564015)
Danno -

Denver
Green Bay
Seattle
New England
Indy

All I could come up with.

Atlanta!! Oh yeah, forgot..

I might add Philly, I think they're in love with Foles.
And Carolina is dumb enough to prefer Cam.

saintsfan1976 12-23-2013 06:27 PM

Re: Some ungrateful Who Dats should remember
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 564025)
I might add Philly, I think they're in love with Foles.
And Carolina is dumb enough to prefer Cam.

We made Carolina forget all the bad Cam did on Sunday. Overthrows, underthrows, misreads, poor decisions.... He was terrible.

RailBoss 12-23-2013 06:39 PM

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This is more like it!

The one thing that is bothering me is Mike Buck I just barely remember him. Must have been drinking to much in the early ninety's.

lsusaint912 12-23-2013 06:43 PM

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so true very true

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foreverfan 12-23-2013 07:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 564015)
Danno -

Denver
Green Bay
Seattle
New England
Indy

All I could come up with.

Atlanta!! Oh yeah, forgot..

Seattle is looking like they may have a QB for the future too. :mad:

Rugby Saint II 12-23-2013 07:44 PM

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Thanks for the read. I'm a little nauseated right now though.....

AlaskaSaints 12-23-2013 08:06 PM

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ONE HUNDRED MILLION BONES

Alaska

WillMacKenzie 12-23-2013 09:23 PM

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Watching the Saints is kind of like watching your own child play sports. You believe in their potential to the point of blind fanaticism. And when I leave my child to a coach who sometimes (in my lofty parental opinion) doesn't completely maximize their potential to win, it rankles me.

Usually at that point I realize I'm sitting in a crusty sports bar with cheap beer watching a game that I am in no way personally affected by other than the price of my next jersey. And then I ask why the hell do I get so bent out of shape when a coach who knows more about football than I ever will in 10 lifetimes doesn't do what I want him to do. WHY GOD, WHY

Mardigras9 12-24-2013 09:56 AM

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Yes, all you have to do is remember what it was like being a Saints fan during this time of year (pre-Brees) to appreciate the different kind of tension that we deal with now.

TheKillerBs 12-24-2013 02:13 PM

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Kerry Collins was easily the best QB we had during the Ditka years. Too bad we only had him for half a season.

Still, I get the point. I'm always willing to allow Drew a brain fart here and there, as he is the best QB we've ever had, and probably ever will have.

Crusader 12-24-2013 02:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 564016)
Why is Jeff Blake on that list?

He is the best QB the Saints have had that wasn't named Drew Brees.

Funny how I always thought that was Archie Manning?

WillSaints81 12-24-2013 09:08 PM

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I am grateful for the team we have. But at the same time it appears we get trashed if we are not dominating by opposing fan bases no matter what. If we don't look serious we get easily dismissed. And being on a undercover board of former ESPN posters, it becomes distressing to see my saints constantly dissed and people saying panthers have a better shot at a sb.

TheOak 12-25-2013 09:38 AM

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I'm thankful I was fortunate enough
to watch 10 wins so far. People forget that at one time 10 wins took a few seasons, they forget that before that there were no Saints.

Considering most fans default to a regional offering. If rather watch the Saints lose than Cowboys/Texans/or Falcons win.

xan 12-25-2013 09:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 564015)
Danno -

Denver
Green Bay
Seattle
New England
Indy

All I could come up with.

Atlanta!! Oh yeah, forgot..

SF - Kapernick
CP - Scum Newton
FC - Fatty Lice
WR - RGIII
NYG - Eli
PS - Rapelessburger
BR - Flunko
SD - Rivers

I don't think that any of the above two lists' teams would trade for Brees. That's 13 teams of the 32. Just sayin'.

Anyway, most teams don't want to commit that much of their cap to one player, and when they do, they usually turn into mediocre teams.

The best teams right now aren't paying very much for their starting QB, relatively. They all have the cap space to pay offensive linemen who can block, and depth.

saintsfan403 12-25-2013 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 564027)
We made Carolina forget all the bad Cam did on Sunday. Overthrows, underthrows, misreads, poor decisions.... He was terrible.

He's really, really bad (minus that one drive).

hagan714 12-25-2013 12:30 PM

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i love and have always loved my saints. but i will not close my eyes to stupidity. i have been through worse but i want so much more than we have gotten so far. DYNASTY I am never happy. even after the super bowl i was trying to figure how to make the trophy ours for keeps. i will never stop. i am sick and have a problem I know. saints fever has only one cure win win win after so many years of defeat. :bng:

WillSaints81 12-26-2013 12:20 AM

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Honestly if we missed the playoffs the year after we won the sb and Atlanta didnt start their sb contention crap I would be fine with what we have this season. But making the playoffs back to back years and another the next means the saints have what it takes to be ELITE and we have a right to want this team to get the respect the pats, broncos, and 49ers get.

burningmetal 12-26-2013 12:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lynwood (Post 563986)
In the eight seasons before Brees arrived, the Saints had seven starting quarterbacks. Here are some names that strike fear into Who Dat Nation: Kerry Collins, Danny Wuerffel, Billy Joe Tolliver, Billy Joe Hobert, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Blake and Aaron Brooks. Looking back a little further reveals names like Jim Everett, Doug Nussmeier, Wade Wilson, Mike Buck and Steve Walsh.


Scott Walker: Some ungrateful Who Dats should remember ghosts of Saints

Ungrateful who dat's? Please don't condescend.

Drew actually looks a LOT like Aaron Brooks when we go on the road lately, but that's beside the point. You don't see anyone comparing Drew to any of those guys do you? Also, try not to lose all perspective when trying to GIVE perspective. Those quarterbacks didn't have any talent around them with the exception of Brooks, who had reasonable talent around him. Those quarterbacks also played in the non wussy era of football. Don't forget that.

Drew is obviously better than all of them, but right now he doesn't play up to the standards of a 100 million dollar man. And frankly, he doesn't look like half the quarterback he used to be, at this moment. But it's not ALL his fault, and that's why we're complaining about play calling and O-line play, as much as we're complaining about Brees.

And finally, does it ever occur to anyone that maybe, just maybe, we WANT to forget about the old days?

TheOak 12-26-2013 06:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 564437)
SF - Kapernick
CP - Scum Newton
FC - Fatty Lice
WR - RGIII
NYG - Eli
PS - Rapelessburger
BR - Flunko
SD - Rivers

I don't think that any of the above two lists' teams would trade for Brees. That's 13 teams of the 32. Just sayin'.

Anyway, most teams don't want to commit that much of their cap to one player, and when they do, they usually turn into mediocre teams.

The best teams right now aren't paying very much for their starting QB, relatively. They all have the cap space to pay offensive linemen who can block, and depth.

That is not necessarily a fair assumption.

Nearly all teams pay for what they consider to be a game changer, and they are not always QBs. Drew happens to be the game changer that we invested in.

Jarred Allen and Revis are with in 1.5M of Drew for Cap Hit.
2013 NFL Top Cap Hit Salaries

Cap hit is all that matters these days. Total and AVE contract value is moot because very rarely are those huge contracts played out.

voodooido 12-28-2013 12:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lynwood (Post 563986)
In the eight seasons before Brees arrived, the Saints had seven starting quarterbacks. Here are some names that strike fear into Who Dat Nation: Kerry Collins, Danny Wuerffel, Billy Joe Tolliver, Billy Joe Hobert, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Blake and Aaron Brooks. Looking back a little further reveals names like Jim Everett, Doug Nussmeier, Wade Wilson, Mike Buck and Steve Walsh.


Scott Walker: Some ungrateful Who Dats should remember ghosts of Saints

Pretty sure this is not 8 seasons before Drew. This is 2013/2014 and the Saints suck on the road. I also remember Flipper Anderson catching 3 tds in the fourth quarter for the Rams on Monday night to beat the Saints. The past sucks, we know this.

SmashMouth 12-14-2018 07:41 AM

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Worth a bump... even from this long ago.


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