Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era
 

Hot off the press from Jeff Duncan's article on NOLA.com, here are some interesting facts that may help guide some perspective on the 2013 New Orleans Saints season.

RECORD SACKS ALLOWED
RECORD PENALTIES COMMITTED
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RECORD TIME OF POSSESSION FOR SAINTS
WORST SCORING OFFENSE IN BREES/PAYTON ERA
FULL JEFF DUNCAN ARTICLE HERE

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2013 Saints Defense > 2013 Saints Offense

Never thought that would happen under Sean Payton unless Brees got hurt.

Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era
 

Saints offense should move up considerably this Sunday. Problem solved.

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And defenses can win games, look at last week panthers D won it for carolina

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I felt these stats highlighted what exactly is the problem this year. We have thread after thread blaming coach Payton's playcall, lack of running game, Drew Brees, and o-line for failures.

For me, this proves the offensive line is sketchy at best in 2013. Offseason cuts, trades, draft and signings WILL happen. I would also like to see a new offensive line coach with seasoned experience or someone who can coach retained players up.

I've never seen Drew on his backside like I have this year. If it continues, he will get injured maybe this year but definitely next year if the o-line woes aren't correctly addressed.

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Our D has given our O lots of gift wrapped presents this year but our O has not given back. Unreal. They need to clean this crap up quick.

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I am thinking that you might be right
or
that our O is doing suffiient to win it

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I too believe problem one is the O-line.

Next is probably WR, or OLB. I kinda think our WR's would have performed much better if Drew had that extra second or two to throw. So fixing the O-line may show that WR wasn't as big a problem as we thought.

Then its BPA at CB, OLB, ILB, D-line.

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Zone blocking is not working. It killed the run game and has forced us to pass more... that hurt the rest of our offensive game.

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You missed one important point...

We changed to a blocking scheme that we are not built for this season.

New scheme... wrong personnel. Sound familiar?

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They need to go back to the old blocking scheme. Draft an athletic Rt tackle in the draft and try zone blocking next season. If we have two athletic tackle it might work. We only have one athletic tackle and they were able to run better last Sunday. Fix the offensive line and it will fix everything else on the offense.

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I don't think RT is the problem. This year Strief grades out our best O-lineman on the team.

He'll likely grade out in the top 5 RT's in the entire NFL.

Oh, and he's a free-agent.:mad:

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It's a problem if you want to run a zone blocking scheme. He is not very athletic. Man's got bad knees.

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True in theory, but he performed better than any of our other O-linemen in this same zone scheme.

I think the main problem is we have 5 O-linemen not well suited for zone blocking.

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You might have a point. In that case, like I've already said, they need to go back to the old scheme. It seemed to work pretty well for them last season. It was the defense that couldn't stop anyone. By the way, do you think they might let Strief walk next season?

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I'm holding out hope for a complete turnaround starting Sunday and running through February

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RT's that grade that high are usually given 4 million plus. I don't think we can afford that.

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We need to afford that, the last thing we need is another Brown situation next year.

Lots of cuts are to be had this off-season; mostly coming from the worthless players on D that are being paid massive contracts for doing nothing or sitting on IR... goodbye

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For Strief to grade out positve in zone blocking with bad knees doesn't say much about the other O-linemen. If and I mean if zone blocking has caused all the sacks, hits, hurries, knockdowns on Brees and stifled our run game seems to me there lies the problem.

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I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal.
Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert.

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Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time

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Thank you mister O-line helper dude!!!:p

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I have said it before and I'm going to say it again, the zone blocking isn't working. Our lineman are not cut out for it. They need to go back to gap blocking.

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I will continue to blame the entire offense, staff included. It's really difficult to justify the struggles of any one position, this season, by blaming another. They have all vastly underperformed and, at numerous times, just flat out sucked.

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I wish we still had Kromer and stuck with gap blocking. It worked for years.


....having a healthy Carl Nicks back would be nice also.

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Me either!! I thought it was for everything.

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scheme?? skip it

saints played to many games with the OL over the past few years and it has caught up. Time tp address it is now.

Streif has always be "Serviceable" as OT. Now when you use that word he is the measuring stick. he is the man cog at OT and must be retained.

As for the rest draft baby draft depth is a major issue and i have yet to see anyone of the bench that impresses me enough to place a keepers tag on

defense is what it is and always should be since Williams was here. No i am not propping Roy Boy up just yet. but i am not hanging him either

the scouting reports are out and teams have our number.

time to readjust and start really looking at some serious options to make moves now to address needs even if a fan favorite or two moves on. the window for another super bowl or two is getting smaller.

gut check time for both sides of the ball.

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They don't practice the zone scheme enough to be proficient at it. Try it for 25 times a game and see what happens.

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It's hard to play a good O line when your better players walk away for a better pay roll.