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WhoDat!656 01-02-2014 06:09 PM

It is time to unleash Mark Ingram
 
This year could be different, however. Unlike years past, they Saints have a top 5 defense to go with their top 5 offense. Besides that, one player, who is right under the Saints’ nose, could hold the key to road success in this playoff run—Mark Ingram.

Believe it or not, this year the offense has been the problem in many of the road losses. They put up 20 Mark Ingram 4points or less against the Rams, Panthers, Jets, and Seahawks (even though everyone played bad in the Seattle game). Against the Patriots, they were not able to gain one first down while the defense came up with 2 three and outs in the final three minutes against Tom Brady. In most of these games, there have not been enough rushing attempts and Drew Brees has thrown it over 40 times. This imbalance doesn’t win games.

This is where Mark Ingram comes in. The much-maligned first rounder has been running the ball with purpose since the Seattle loss. In 3 of the past 4 games he has averaged over 5 yards a touch. This includes a great performance in the Carolina loss where he averaged 6.4 yards per carry on 13 carries.

For the first time since he has been drafted, Ingram looks completely healthy. He seems more trim and elusive. And most importantly, he has shown exceptional patience and vision in his running, rather than the customary 3-yard runs where he is pushing his own blockers out of the way. For the Saints to have a chance against the Philadelphia Eagles and beyond, they will need to run the ball, and Ingram is the best option.

He is the freshest back, since he has missed quite a few games this season. Also, his downhill running style is best for the cold weather and sloppy turf conditions. If Sean Payton doesn’t run Ingram into the ground I don’t know what he is waiting for. Isn’t this why the organization traded back into the first round to acquire him? For this type of game? And if his future in New Orleans is uncertain, wouldn’t you want to showcase him to gain some value on the trade market?

New Orleans Saints: It is time to unleash Mark Ingram

|Mitch| 01-02-2014 06:17 PM

Re: It is time to unleash Mark Ingram
 
Ingram and Robinson should get the bulk of the carries Saturday and a screen every now and then to keep the Iggles guessing

Audiotom 01-02-2014 06:19 PM

Re: It is time to unleash Mark Ingram
 
sproules in the flat

Ingram comes in, the opponent knows to load the box

|Mitch| 01-02-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 567263)
Ingram comes in, the opponent knows to load the box

Not if you throw him a screen or two, or play-action off him... We did both in the Bucs game

Boutte 01-02-2014 06:28 PM

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Give to Khiry. (Just my opinion)

xan 01-02-2014 06:29 PM

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Somebody better run north south.

Luda34 01-02-2014 06:37 PM

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I hope Payton runs the ball with one player more than 10 times this game.

saintsfan1976 01-02-2014 06:39 PM

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What's most encouraging about Ingram is his burst. He's hitting the gaps and making great cuts. Toe is definitely better...

dueceloose 01-02-2014 07:08 PM

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If its the MI we saw in Carolina then by all means run it. I hope PT is ok.. hes the most consistent rb IMO

lsusaint912 01-02-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 567271)
Give to Khiry. (Just my opinion)

What this man said give it to khiry, but id love to feed them both funny thing is when we finally IF ever do commit to the run thats prolly the time ingram gets 1 yard a carry knowing r luck, but i love khiry's vison as a ball carrier and he is always moving those legs

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boonedocksaint 01-02-2014 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 567271)
Give to Khiry. (Just my opinion)


everytime khiry runs, i cringe. so scared this dudes fumbleitis will come back at the worst time (in the playoffs) and cost us the game. i trust his running ability, certainly, but, i still want ingram toting the rock behind pierre (if he plays) and sproles.

papz 01-02-2014 07:42 PM

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I really don't care who we give it to but if we're going to play out in the elements, we need to establish a run game. It's crucial that we're able to run the ball in the playoffs.

halloween 65 01-02-2014 08:44 PM

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Line Ingram and Robinson up together and run it down their throat. As long as the O-line does their job it should work, then everything opens up for Brees. I would like to see Payton smash mouth at least 1 team before I die although the excitement might kill me.

Jack Vegas 01-03-2014 06:10 AM

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Like what I've seen from Ingram in the latter part of the season, but he's not been so consistently good that he should be the center of the game plan. I'm all for giving him 12-15 carries if possible but against that pass defense we are going to be slinging the rock.

TheOak 01-03-2014 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by boonedocksaint (Post 567296)
everytime khiry runs, i cringe. so scared this dudes fumbleitis will come back at the worst time (in the playoffs) and cost us the game. i trust his running ability, certainly, but, i still want ingram toting the rock behind pierre (if he plays) and sproles.


"Fumbleitis".... When and where? Seriously..... Who are you watching?

Brees 2 fumbles lost
Sproles 2 fumbles lost
PT 1 fumble lost
Moore 1 fumble lost
Corey White 1 fumble lost
Khiry Robinson 0 fumbles lost, 0 fumbles recorded.


Somehow Khiry Robinson with the ball makes you cringe?

jeanpierre 01-03-2014 07:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boonedocksaint (Post 567296)
everytime khiry runs, i cringe. so scared this dudes fumbleitis will come back at the worst time (in the playoffs) and cost us the game. i trust his running ability, certainly, but, i still want ingram toting the rock behind pierre (if he plays) and sproles.

Are you watching the New Orleans Saints in this universe?!? Don't geaux jinxking things are the Mod Police will get you!!!

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 567271)
Give to Khiry. (Just my opinion)

Not just your opinion, my friend; but running the ball successfully (period) is what many fans want to see...

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 567280)
What's most encouraging about Ingram is his burst. He's hitting the gaps and making great cuts. Toe is definitely better...

No more excuses or bama apologists - time to get'r done...

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 567372)
Like what I've seen from Ingram in the latter part of the season, but he's not been so consistently good that he should be the center of the game plan. I'm all for giving him 12-15 carries if possible but against that pass defense we are going to be slinging the rock.

True, but we've got to get the running backs going early in these playoffs if we're to survive and be successful on this daunting road task we've created...

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 567263)
Ingram comes in, the opponent knows to load the box

And that's on Coach Payton; but Ingram and the Offensive Line has to build confidence in the run game early...

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 567298)
I really don't care who we give it to but if we're going to play out in the elements, we need to establish a run game. It's crucial that we're able to run the ball in the playoffs.

Now that's really the recipe for this post season - not what we're putting in the Beefy Mac nor what Al left behind in his Chicken Mix...

Mr.Riaton 01-03-2014 07:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 567372)
Like what I've seen from Ingram in the latter part of the season, but he's not been so consistently good that he should be the center of the game plan. I'm all for giving him 12-15 carries if possible but against that pass defense we are going to be slinging the rock.

Its hard for him to be consistently good when he's not consistently in the game.

saintsfan403 01-03-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 567388)
Its hard for him to be consistently good when he's not consistently in the game.

Yup, didn't he get 20 yards on 3 carries last week?

frankeefrank 01-03-2014 12:45 PM

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JUST WIN BABY

Cruize 01-03-2014 01:47 PM

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Past time.

Danno 01-03-2014 01:53 PM

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The Eagles rank dead last in the NFL against the pass and we wanna run the ball?

Sorry, I wouldn't complain if Drew throws it 70 times.

dueceloose 01-03-2014 02:01 PM

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But they know they suck at covering a pass so they will compensate more and force us to run. Or we throw it until they show us they can stop it.

|Mitch| 01-03-2014 02:04 PM

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Going to be interesting to see how they manage Graham and Sproles...

Jack Vegas 01-03-2014 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 567388)
Its hard for him to be consistently good when he's not consistently in the game.

Of course that is true, but when you have a HOF quarterback who just threw for 5,000 yards for the fourth time in his career, facing one of the worst pass defenses in the league, you air it out. Despite our road struggles, you don't take the ball out of Drew's hands to go ground and pound when you haven't done that successfully all year.

saintfan 01-03-2014 02:27 PM

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Take 'em deep if it's there, but I'd be happy to dink and dunk all the way down the field. In fact I'd prefer it, especially early on. Let's wear out an already suspect defense and put the hammer down in the second half.

ScottyRo 01-03-2014 03:37 PM

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He's going to have to step it up...PT is OUT.

Danno 01-03-2014 03:40 PM

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IMO its time for Robinson to step up as well.

Sproles/Ingram can't do it all.

TheOak 01-03-2014 06:28 PM

Re: It is time to unleash Mark Ingram
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dueceloose (Post 567500)
But they know they suck at covering a pass so they will compensate more and force us to run. Or we throw it until they show us they can stop it.


Ok brother..... Now I'm going to need you to splain me how that works.

They suck at covering the pass and will "force us to run".... ?

Rugby Saint II 01-03-2014 07:55 PM

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Wow, no mention of Cadet? Go Robinson.

boonedocksaint 01-03-2014 08:03 PM

Re: It is time to unleash Mark Ingram
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 567375)
"Fumbleitis".... When and where? Seriously..... Who are you watching?

Brees 2 fumbles lost
Sproles 2 fumbles lost
PT 1 fumble lost
Moore 1 fumble lost
Corey White 1 fumble lost
Khiry Robinson 0 fumbles lost, 0 fumbles recorded.


Somehow Khiry Robinson with the ball makes you cringe?

he fumbled twice in one game when he saw his most carries in the preseason.

what team are you watching you f'ing chimp?

|Mitch| 01-03-2014 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boonedocksaint (Post 567651)
he fumbled twice in one game when he saw his most carries in the preseason.

Reaching with the "preseason" game mention...

TheOak 01-04-2014 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boonedocksaint (Post 567651)
he fumbled twice in one game when he saw his most carries in the preseason.

what team are you watching you f'ing chimp?


There, their, they're; Mr. Potty mouth.

I watch the team where Ingram also had 1 lost fumble in the preseason. Ironically he does not worry you with the same # of lost fumbles.

PT is our only RB that didn't put it on the ground in preseason..... and Robinson & Ingram are the only two that haven't lost fumbles in regular season.

NASA sends Chimps into space, what's your claim to fame?

BTW, it's fumblitis and having had 2 fumbles does not constitute the disease.

Boutte 01-05-2014 12:50 AM

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Good call!!

westbankdaze 01-05-2014 05:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 567496)
The Eagles rank dead last in the NFL against the pass and we wanna run the ball?

Sorry, I wouldn't complain if Drew throws it 70 times.


Lol

WhoDatFan26 01-05-2014 11:42 AM

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I'm just glad he is running healthy and productive. If he can keep it up then it makes us that much more difficult to stop.


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