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Papa Voodoo 01-07-2014 04:59 PM

Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Saints place Parys Haralson on IR, cut Isa Abdul-Quddus | ProFootballTalk

I didn't see this on the site. Please delete if I reposted it. I thought Abdul-Quddus was going to be a starter after last season. We still haven't signed a CB so I'm thinking Keenan will be in the game Saturday. I like all of the activity from our coaches/GM...they aren't sitting back and are going after this game.

Papa Voodoo 01-07-2014 04:59 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
And, of course, I just found it...dah!

Danno 01-07-2014 05:08 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
So I guess he actually wasn't better than Harper/Jenkins.

Jack Vegas 01-07-2014 05:23 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Thought he was a promising player. But couldn't get on the field this season. Clearly Bush surpassed him. I do think Bush and Vaccaro are the starting safeties next year.

Utah_Saint 01-07-2014 05:31 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 570304)
Thought he was a promising player. But couldn't get on the field this season. Clearly Bush surpassed him. I do think Bush and Vaccaro are the starting safeties next year.

Which one is the third in the 3 safety sets? Think we'll go with Harper, Jenkins, or will we get someone through the draft or free agency?

|Mitch| 01-07-2014 05:39 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 570307)
Which one is the third in the 3 safety sets? Think we'll go with Harper, Jenkins, or will we get someone through the draft or free agency?

It was Harper, Jenkins, Vaccaro... With Vaccaro on IR it has been Harper, Jenkins, Rapheal Bush

blackangold 01-07-2014 05:51 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 570308)
It was Harper, Jenkins, Vaccaro... With Vaccaro on IR it has been Harper, Jenkins, Rapheal Bush

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2013 NFL SNAP COUNTS

If you look at snap counts for the season it would suggest that Jenkins Vaccaro as 1 and 2 with Bush coming in for the 3 safety sets.

Jenkins 84 %
Vaccaro 81%
Bush 53%

Danno 01-07-2014 05:53 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 570313)
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2013 NFL SNAP COUNTS

If you look at snap counts for the season it would suggest that Jenkins Vaccaro as 1 and 2 with Bush coming in for the 3 safety sets.

Well Harper missed most of the season with injury and was brought back slowly so I'm not sure if snap count tells us much.

We also played some 4 safety sets in our dime package with KV, RH, MJ and RB.

Vaccaro also played NB, SS and FS.

jeanpierre 01-07-2014 06:00 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Harper may be back, only at a much reduced rate...

Jenkins will get someone to overpay for his services...

But I prefer a ball-hawk at Safety to complement Kenny Vaccaro who, even as a Rookie, seems to be a lock-down backstop player...

With Rafael Bush, you've got one great rotation...

blackangold 01-07-2014 06:00 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 570317)
Well Harper missed most of the season with injury and was brought back slowly so I'm not sure if snap count tells us much.

We also played some 4 safety sets in our dime package with KV, RH, MJ and RB.

Vaccaro also played NB, SS and FS.

Every safety we have was injured at some point and missed games.

I like Bush and Vaccaro as a tandem, but Harper has some specialty roles he fits in well. Personally I think Jenkins is more of a liability than Harper. I just bash Harper as much as I can for you Danno :)

halloween 65 01-07-2014 07:02 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 570319)
Harper may be back, only at a much reduced rate...

Jenkins will get someone to overpay for his services...

But I prefer a ball-hawk at Safety to complement Kenny Vaccaro who, even as a Rookie, seems to be a lock-down backstop player...

With Rafael Bush, you've got one great rotation...

We need a ball-hawking FS, I'm with you, draft 1 and let Junkins go. Yes it is spelled right.

Goldmember 01-07-2014 07:15 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Calling an active roster safety junk while we are still in playoffs? C'mon man.
Try not to let the door hit you on the way back to Atlanta. :D

Goldmember 01-07-2014 07:16 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Jenkins has above decent coverage skills. He's not the best tackler. I still see him more as cb than any safety position...

44Champs 01-07-2014 07:47 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
With all the injuries we have in the defensive backfield, I thought we couldnt afford to cut anyone in those positions.

halloween 65 01-07-2014 08:32 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmember (Post 570347)
Calling an active roster safety junk while we are still in playoffs? C'mon man.
Try not to let the door hit you on the way back to Atlanta. :D

Funny!!

biloxi-indian 01-07-2014 08:33 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
If you are Pete Carroll, would you try and bring Isa Abdul-Quddus onto your roster now?

Knowing him, IMHO yes.

Would ISA go? Maybe, a chance to get a ring, and a little pissed how things turned out with the Saints.

Boutte 01-07-2014 09:19 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Thought IAQ was going to be good. It takes more than talent though.

Danno 01-08-2014 08:40 AM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
It may be that IAQ just isn't a good fit for Ryans defense. We've seen the square per round hole effect on good players before.

He'll probably catch on somewhere and do well.

Rugby Saint II 01-09-2014 12:22 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
I never saw this coming. Especially now.

Jack Vegas 01-09-2014 12:40 PM

Re: Saints cut Isa Abdul-Quddus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 570313)
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2013 NFL SNAP COUNTS

If you look at snap counts for the season it would suggest that Jenkins Vaccaro as 1 and 2 with Bush coming in for the 3 safety sets.

Jenkins 84 %
Vaccaro 81%
Bush 53%

Bush was still playing quite a bit even before Harper got hurt though. He played 22 snaps in week 1. I think that our brilliant DC recognized that he's a pretty good player a long time before any of us did.


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