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WillSaints81 01-10-2014 10:26 PM

The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
makes me nervous. Throw the game film knowledge out the window that is not going to work now. They're ready for our run game. This is coming down to our defense, we need turnovers I believe to take this. Obviously Carroll and Harbaugh are playing a new game here, they have clearly caught on to this fad happening in the playoffs in recent memory. It unfortunately has to happen to us when otherwise we could have snuck up on them. I don't believe thats happening now.

NonieT 01-10-2014 10:50 PM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 571489)
makes me nervous. Throw the game film knowledge out the window that is not going to work now. They're ready for our run game. This is coming down to our defense, we need turnovers I believe to take this. Obviously Carroll and Harbaugh are playing a new game here, they have clearly caught on to this fad happening in the playoffs in recent memory. It unfortunately has to happen to us when otherwise we could have snuck up on them. I don't believe thats happening now.

What are you talkin' about?

Beastmode 01-10-2014 10:55 PM

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I disagree. I doubt we run anymore than we did before the Eagles. You don't go changing up what got you this far this late and Pete knows it. The only wrench is Brees running now. He will do it with everything on the line so they will have to think about over pursuit. He's no Wilson but you have to respect those nice little chunks he gets.

JayHawk777 01-10-2014 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 571495)
What are you talkin' about?

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st thomas 01-10-2014 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 571497)
I disagree. I doubt we run anymore than we did before the Eagles. You don't go changing up what got you this far this late and Pete knows it. The only wrench is Brees running now. He will do it with everything on the line so they will have to think about over pursuit. He's no Wilson but you have to respect those nice little chunks he gets.

I no payton is calling off brees running lockdown this week its all out or out.

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the-commish 01-11-2014 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 571503)
I no payton is calling off brees running lockdown this week its all out or out.

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How's that again?

NonieT 01-11-2014 06:46 AM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 571489)
makes me nervous. Throw the game film knowledge out the window that is not going to work now. They're ready for our run game. This is coming down to our defense, we need turnovers I believe to take this. Obviously Carroll and Harbaugh are playing a new game here, they have clearly caught on to this fad happening in the playoffs in recent memory. It unfortunately has to happen to us when otherwise we could have snuck up on them. I don't believe thats happening now.


Knowing it's coming is one thing, being able to stop it is something else. If the line plays the way it did against Philly they won't be able to stop it any better than Philly did.

saintsfan1976 01-11-2014 07:09 AM

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It's all about who's better today

saintsfan1976 01-11-2014 07:10 AM

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Thanks for the pics jay. Since it didn't come through I'm sure the last one was of our lone TD...

TheOak 01-11-2014 07:24 AM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
#Get-a-***n-grip-onurself

ssvnewman 01-11-2014 08:19 AM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
Dear Coach Payton: "FEED INGRAM!!!"

CoreyO 01-11-2014 08:24 AM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 571542)
Knowing it's coming is one thing, being able to stop it is something else. If the line plays the way it did against Philly they won't be able to stop it any better than Philly did.

Incorrect, Philly was not preparing for the run they were prepared for our pass game, they were not loading the box, our run game will not be as good as last week. Not saying we are doomed but dont be surprised if our ypc goes down

NonieT 01-11-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CoreyO (Post 571569)
Incorrect, Philly was not preparing for the run they were prepared for our pass game, they were not loading the box, our run game will not be as good as last week. Not saying we are doomed but dont be surprised if our ypc goes down

They tried to adjust and still could not stop us. They knew we were going to run. They even said as much. Don't believe me, go listen to the sound FX of the wild card game. I still say if our line plays like they did in Philly, Seattle won't be able to stop us.

UK_WhoDat 01-11-2014 11:55 AM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
Who What Where Why When How.
Seattle might know How. They might think they know Who.

But they do not know When and Where.

We are not going to run the ball every down.
We are not going to pass the ball every down.

Utah_Saint 01-11-2014 12:14 PM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
Stacking the box and daring Drew to throw.

Can't remember if that's ever happened since he's been a Saint. Most teams try to shut down one or two of the Saints receivers.

I kinda like the thought of it. Sherman's one of the best CBs in the game today but he can only cover one guy at a time. And you know Stills, who is faster than Sherman, will be trying to stretch the coverage early and often. That should open up either Graham or Sproles.

It'll be fun to see the way that plays out.

|Mitch| 01-11-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 571663)
Stacking the box and daring Drew to throw.

Can't remember if that's ever happened since he's been a Saint. Most teams try to shut down one or two of the Saints receivers.

I kinda like the thought of it. Sherman's one of the best CBs in the game today but he can only cover one guy at a time. And you know Stills, who is faster than Sherman, will be trying to stretch the coverage early and often. That should open up either Graham or Sproles.

It'll be fun to see the way that plays out.

Don't forget, Sherman has 30+ mph wind gusts on his side

KCHawkGirl 01-11-2014 12:19 PM

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Of course we're prepared we do run everything out of 8 man fronts anyway.

Utah_Saint 01-11-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 571664)
Don't forget, Sherman has 30+ mph wind gusts on his side

Yeah, I hope the winds die down. That could seriously limit the long ball.

JayHawk777 01-11-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 571668)
Yeah, I hope the winds die down. That could seriously limit the long ball.

Brees is going to be doing even more checkdowns than his close to 10-11 per game. He's #19 in yards per completion because of the short dump offs.

We all know Brees doesn't have a cannon but is more of a timing and finesse passer with great touch.

How will that play out if there's wind gusts? I doubt Brees will be going downfield too often unless it's a "throw it in the vicinity of Graham who has a height advantage."

I give the QB edge to RWilson. He's always a threat to take off with the rock, has Houdiniesque escapability and with the big mitts and high release, can pierce the winds much better than Brees.

You won't find many games where you'd take another QB over Brees but given the supposed conditions of today's game, the nod has to go to RWilson for the above reasons.

If you think about it critically, you'll realize I'm not typing while shaking Hawk pom poms and wearing Green/Blue shaded lenses.

That's not how I roll.

|Mitch| 01-11-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JayHawk777 (Post 571670)
We all know Brees doesn't have a cannon but is more of a timing and finesse passer with great touch.

Considering we led the league in 20+ yard plays this season, I'll take our cannon-less QB... Just depends on what direction the wind is coming from

iceshack149 01-11-2014 12:51 PM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
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Originally Posted by JayHawk777 (Post 571670)
I give the QB edge to RWilson. He's always a threat to take off with the rock, has Houdiniesque escapability and with the big mitts and high release, can pierce the winds much better than Brees.

You won't find many games where you'd take another QB over Brees but given the supposed conditions of today's game, the nod has to go to RWilson for the above reasons.

If you think about it critically, you'll realize I'm not typing while shaking Hawk pom poms and wearing Green/Blue shaded lenses.

That's not how I roll.

Of course that's how you roll. That's why you're here.
You're taking the second year QB that hasn't even been in an NFCCG over the seasoned Superbowl winner that breaks records every year. :rolleyes:

Utah_Saint 01-11-2014 12:58 PM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
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Originally Posted by JayHawk777 (Post 571670)
Brees is going to be doing even more checkdowns than his close to 10-11 per game. He's #19 in yards per completion because of the short dump offs.

We all know Brees doesn't have a cannon but is more of a timing and finesse passer with great touch.

Ummm... Yeah....

In 2013 the Saints (Drew) was 3rd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 2nd in attempts over 40 yards

NFL Stats: by Team Category

In 2012 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards

NFL Stats: by Team Category

In 2011 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards.

NFL Stats: by Team Category


I'll let you look up his completion percentage over 20 yards. Most years it's the best in the NFL.

Pretty good for a "finesse" passer, huh?

(You really might want to look this stuff up before you post. It's pretty easy to find.)

Exxcalibur 01-11-2014 01:25 PM

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This thread is full of win....

JayHawk777 01-11-2014 02:01 PM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 571692)
Ummm... Yeah....

In 2013 the Saints (Drew) was 3rd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 2nd in attempts over 40 yards

NFL Stats: by Team Category

In 2012 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards

NFL Stats: by Team Category

In 2011 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards.

NFL Stats: by Team Category


I'll let you look up his completing percentage over 20 yards. Most years it's the best in the NFL.

Pretty good for a "finesse" passer, huh?

(You really might want to look this stuff up before you post. It's pretty easy to find.)

Either I wasn't clear, ya'll are a bit defensive or didn't have quality reading comprehension.

I am NOT talking about Brees completing quality touch and finesse passes in the confines of a 70 degree dome.

We're discussing windy conditions where Brees' lack of velocity could be a detriment and thus, more checkdowns.

I pull that 2011 link for verification and you may want to re-evaluate.

Brees was tied for 3rd in 20+. They are completions, not attempts. Ne had 72, GB had 70, SD had 69, Saints had 69. You were way off on 40+. He didnt have #3..... NYG had 18, Det 16, Gb 16, zona 15, Ne 14, Oak 14, Ten 14, Cincy 11, texans 11, dallas 11, saints 11. 3rd? cmon!

Besides, you should really calculate as a percentage of attempts where brees has 650+ avg over past 4 years.

How do you explain being #19 in yds per completion THIS year?

In conclusion, this is about todays wind oriented game, not the dome. It's not a put down to call brees a finesse passer with great touch. He moves defenders well with his eyes.

He doesn't have a cannon. Cmon now.

If you're going to quote stats please quote correctly and understand that it's not always about totals, but %

WHODATINCA 01-11-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JayHawk777 (Post 571670)
If you think about it critically, you'll realize I'm not typing while shaking ....

Oh really? Well, what are you doin' here then? I'll give you a hint, one of two things: 1) Makin' yourself feel better about your team's chances today and 2) just tryin' to start some sh*t -- because you don't feel very good about your team's chances today.

Yeah, fearless and noble........ that's how you troll.

|Mitch| 01-11-2014 02:18 PM

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Utah_Saint 01-11-2014 02:19 PM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
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Originally Posted by JayHawk777 (Post 571716)
Either I wasn't clear, ya'll are a bit defensive or didn't have quality reading comprehension.

Oh, changing the subject, didn't see that comin. ;)

Not only are you coming off as a blind homer, it looks like you're trolling.

You should take this to the Ultimate Smack Talk! section of the forums.

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WHODATINCA 01-11-2014 02:25 PM

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Hey guys, listen up, this asswipe ain't even sittin' in the cheap seats. That's how big of a fan he is. Ignore em.

44Champs 01-11-2014 02:35 PM

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I don't care if they know we're running.
Run the damn ball!! That's how you control the line of scrimmage, break down their defense, and keep their safeties and LB's guessing. Doesn't matter if we only get 2 yards. Eventually we'll get 6, then 8, then 12. Then we beat them with play-action. But if we don't run, we have NO CHANCE.

WillSaints81 01-11-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 571550)
#Get-a-***n-grip-onurself



I have but I can still be nervous. I usually have written off playoff upsets as game film knowledge of the losing opponent in the regular season and catching the other team offguard. I hope we win, but the town of Seattle has that team emotional and its because of 2006 sb. I usually do not believe a fanbase can have that much impact on how a team performs but it seems they do play a big role. If we win, there are going to be some devastated seahawks fans.

TheOak 01-11-2014 03:29 PM

Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it
 
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 571768)
I have but I can still be nervous. I usually have written off playoff upsets as game film knowledge of the losing opponent in the regular season and catching the other team offguard. I hope we win, but the town of Seattle has that team emotional and its because of 2006 sb. I usually do not believe a fanbase can have that much impact on how a team performs but it seems they do play a big role. If we win, there are going to be some devastated seahawks fans.


WOW.... I don't really see how any of that determines how the Saints play. Unless you believe they are the better team.

WillSaints81 01-11-2014 07:21 PM

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I was right Oak, we had to throw to have a chance. We almost won but only after we started chucking it. I know what lost us this game.


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