Im tiired of hearing how Jimmy Graham is soft
 

The dude has only played football for four years. Hes still learning the game and still has a huge ceilng. Yea he did disappear against some tough defenses later in the season but he was injured. Before the injury dude would drag 3 defenders accross the goal line like it was nothing. I dont call that soft. His injury makes it painful to run and jump but the worst part about it is that it makes it so you cant plant your feet annd push off. Thats why he couldnt get any separation at times. Yes he has more to learn, especially in blocking but I for one am glad to have him. Even the local media on WWL are talking about how soft he is, granted that could have something to do with trying to drive his cost down. Props Jimmy, I know you will come out ballin again next year.

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I agree that when Graham is healthy he is as tremendous asset.

But since the Patriots game, he has been MIA.

The PEDhawks punked him out; they got in his head big time.

Maybe the Saints could hire Gonzales to tutor him how to improve his game; you NEVER of ANY defense shutting down Gonzales like has happened to Graham.

The sky is the ceiling for him, but he does need to man-up!

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He is still injured. That Plantar Fasciitis doesn't just go away.

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OK, how about he's not physical enough to avoid aggressive CB's jams at the line of scrimmage?

Does "not physical enough" sound better than soft?

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Sounds like the same thing to me fam. Lol.

You remember when I said he was soft after the Pats game and everybody jumped my case? I demand satisfaction!

But yeah, nobody should be able to jam him at the line, nor should anyone win a jump ball battle against him. And nobody should be able to run through him when he posts up for catch. All traits concerning physicality.

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But to his credit he was criticized for drops and for nearly zero YAC's his 1st two seasons and got significantly better at both.

My guess is he improves his physicalityness this off-season.:p

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This seems to be all off our receivers.

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True. Very true. Gonzalez can come teach him how to push off on defenders.

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When you think about it, the Saints don't have any Riche Incognetos or Richard Shermans. Which is good and bad at the same time.

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I think its all bad. Especially not to have a Sherman.

Im tiired of hearing how Jimmy Graham is soft
 

You mean like he did to us in the first game? Ha! I guess Gonzo is soft.

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Earl Thomas was all over Graham, and I don't think it was 100% because of the injury. He has had 100 yard games since the injury and when I saw he was getting in fights before the game I thought he was going to demolish the secondary. He disappears when you put your hands on him, straight out.

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yes I know I was using past tense because the season is over.

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Can you still play? We need more help in the backfield...

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The Greats go through things like this...He'll get better and that's what should scare everybody..Gronk will be what he is...But Jimmy still has some growing to do.
The guy scored 16 touchdowns without the full knowledge of the position..I would love for Sean to bring in Shockey to work with him on the intricacies of the tight end position.HOF Talent with the work ethic to be great..I'm happy he's a Saint

Re: Im tiired of hearing how Jimmy Graham is soft
 

I'm pretty sure I could play some elite nickel corner.

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Graham isn't even hitting his prime and he is still learning the game and evolving. His best days are ahead and that is frightening for our opponents. Sure, any player can be eliminated but that should open something else up to exploit a defense. Jimmy needs to improve as a blocker and also learn how to run routes and conduct himself within this before and after a play develops to benefit the other 10 on the offense. Too many times when the ball is not coming his way he seems dislodged from any further action to help the team with the play.

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Graham never came back 100% either did Sproles. Graham needs to spend some time in the weight room in the off-season.

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I'm not sure whether our assessment of his toughness is relevant considering he regularly draws bracket coverage. But, it's true, in the last half/third of the year, against some secondaries, he did not perform. That cannot continue.

I bet his contract will be structured accordingly.

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I don't think Jimmy is soft, I tend to believe he was injured far worse than we were led to believe. I'd like to see him get healthy and stronger and focus on improving his blocking. But I'm not going to call him soft. You don't play 8+ games with plantar fascitis if you're soft.

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But in the Pats game is when you could see how much the foot injury was really affecting him. Remember in the 2011 Divisional Playoff game against San Fran, dude scored on a seam route with two Niners Defenders draped all over him. JG is far from soft, he was just more injured than we will ever know. I'll say this, for all those who doubt his level of toughness, go out and sprain the bottom, long muscle of your foot, then go out and attempt to do your normal daily routine. You'll stop calling him soft soon after.

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Maybe it's not such a bad idea to consider hiring Tony Gonzales as a TE coach...

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Question is for me, is he worth breaking the bank for? I say, no ,for more than 1 reason.

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i will stick with my comment for early. he did not put himself at risk as he did in previous due to contract year. that extra effort was missing. so soft

now explain to me how a good TE like Graham becomes elite,

do not disappear in the big games! so soft yet again

lets see what millions of dollars does the man. while he return to a beast form of years past?

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Well hopefully jimmy is tired of being called soft too.

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Ohhhhh the irony. The deep, thick, suffocating irony of a person being tired of hearing others negative opinions..... Has the familiar tone of weekly "we have a huge .003% chance of losing".


You called it like you saw it, and they are calling it like they see it.

Neither a reason to start a thread b1tching about it.

Re: Im tiired of hearing how Jimmy Graham is soft
 

Talib mugged Graham with no flags
Keuchley sp? Did as well

Refs dont throw flag away from home for pi

They are even less apt to throw a flag when a monster is being guarded by a little db. Certainly he can hold his own

The saints get killed by teams that hang on and abuse us at the line

Refs look the other way


Remember gronk last seconds in the panthers game
That cost us in the playoffs