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Utah_Saint 02-15-2014 11:54 AM

Re: What now at corner?
 
I don't think the Saints can afford a FA at corner. They've still got to find between $10 and 15 million in cap space just to sign DLP, Strief, Bush and Graham.

Besides that, the Saints had a pretty good pass defense using Lewis and White. They were second in yards allowed, 9th in yards per attempt, and allowed an 83.6 passer rating against.

Also, Robinson was the projected starter at either corner or nickel back positions last season. Overall he wasn't good the year before but almost nobody on Spag's defense looked good. Robinson was able to keep up a very good completion percentage against, and passer rating against. So maybe he'll look good in Ryan's defense.

I don't think the Saints can afford to fix something that wasn't that broken.

Jack Vegas 02-15-2014 01:42 PM

Re: What now at corner?
 
I don't think we bring in a big contract at CB either. Maybe a nickel/dime guy who can start in a pinch - that's one of the things I like about Cassius Vaughn. Or a high draft pick. But not somebody that's going to cost you more than a couple million a year. Utah Saint said it best, no need to fix something that was not broken.

Danno 02-15-2014 01:53 PM

Re: What now at corner?
 
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 578268)
I don't think the Saints can afford a FA at corner. They've still got to find between $10 and 15 million in cap space just to sign DLP, Strief, Bush and Graham.

Besides that, the Saints had a pretty good pass defense using Lewis and White. They were second in yards allowed, 9th in yards per attempt, and allowed an 83.6 passer rating against.

Also, Robinson was the projected starter at either corner or nickel back positions last season. Overall he wasn't good the year before but almost nobody on Spag's defense looked good. Robinson was able to keep up a very good completion percentage against, and passer rating against. So maybe he'll look good in Ryan's defense.

I don't think the Saints can afford to fix something that wasn't that broken.

FA CB's come is all price ranges. An aging vet with a year or two left in the tank looking to hang on for another season, an up and coming guy off of someone else's practice squad, a mid-range journeyman who can provide depth.

We don't need to sign another Lewis. Someone like a Chris Carr or a tad better will do just fine for depth, and won't cost much at all. Maybe a couple more Trevin Wade types perhaps?

Utah_Saint 02-15-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 578279)
FA CB's come is all price ranges. An aging vet with a year or two left in the tank looking to hang on for another season, an up and coming guy off of someone else's practice squad, a mid-range journeyman who can provide depth.

We don't need to sign another Lewis. Someone like a Chris Carr or a tad better will do just fine for depth, and won't cost much at all. Maybe a couple more Trevin Wade types perhaps?

You're right. I should have specified that my post was a response to the posts that mention Talib, Munnerlyn, Roggers-Cromartie, Grimes...etc.

rezburna 02-15-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 578018)
So CBs have more to grasp than Safety's? (Vaccaro)

No, but it is the hardest position on the field outside of QB.

rezburna 02-15-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 578018)
So CBs have more to grasp than Safety's? (Vaccaro)

No, but it is the hardest position on the field outside of QB.

Danno 02-15-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 578285)
You're right. I should have specified that my post was a response to the posts that mention Talib, Munnerlyn, Roggers-Cromartie, Grimes...etc.

Agreed, I don't think we can afford to go after a top tier FA CB either.

But I can certainly see us going after a mid-tier experienced CB for sure.

CheramieIII 02-15-2014 05:12 PM

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We will draft a DT or DE in the first round. We will pick up a CB and OT in free agency. Both could be had at a great price for our cap. If we can push salary off to next year we can sign outstanding players at both positions.

rezburna 02-15-2014 06:48 PM

Re: What now at corner?
 
What now at corner? Me baby. Catch me at the 2 day open tryouts. Its time.

hagan714 02-16-2014 06:08 AM

Re: What now at corner?
 
Patrick Robinson contrat 2014
cap hit 2,804,333
dead money 1,446,833

cheap risky starter or salary cap causality? injury history makes it a tough call.

the smart money would have the saints drafting one of the developmental CB in the second round on that have a high ceiling. maybe two. CB/FS types

Keith McGill CB/S Utah
Stanley Jean-Baptiste Nebraska
Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
Pierre Desir, Lindenwood
Walt Aikens Liberty
Dontae Johnson; CB/S, NC State
Jordan Love, CB, Towson
Brandon Dixon NW Missouri St CB/FS

to name a few. its a good year for these types.

CB in round 1 i just do not have faith in ant of them not call them a reach. we need one to fall into our laps but that aint happening

crossing their fingers and praying Pat can stay on the field for once is a huge gamble.

interesting to watch and see what the saints do

K Major 02-16-2014 08:58 AM

Re: What now at corner?
 
A recent torn ACL will hurt Colvin's stock but he is still worth a look.

amazin15 02-16-2014 08:40 PM

Re: What now at corner?
 
NFL Rumors: New Orleans Saints to target Captain Munnerlyn NFL Rumors: New Orleans Saints to target Captain Munnerlyn

if its at the right price he could be our #2 or our slot.. and not to mention his familiarity with the division..

Jack Vegas 02-17-2014 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 578352)
A recent torn ACL will hurt Colvin's stock but he is still worth a look.

Agreed, but he won't get drafted. He'll be a very highly sought UDFA I would imagine. I think the Saints are started to have an edge with those guys since so many of them go to the Saints and are successful. It would be a dream come true to get Verrett or Gilbert (or even Batiste) early and then snag Colvin as a free agent.

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Originally Posted by amazin15 (Post 578399)
NFL Rumors: New Orleans Saints to target Captain Munnerlyn NFL Rumors: New Orleans Saints to target Captain Munnerlyn

if its at the right price he could be our #2 or our slot.. and not to mention his familiarity with the division..

That is not a rumor, that is one person's speculation.

hagan714 02-17-2014 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 578352)
A recent torn ACL will hurt Colvin's stock but he is still worth a look.


yep he maybe worth a medical eval he gets the saints annual walking wounded pick up for 2014. saints seem to always do this.

Danno 02-17-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by amazin15 (Post 578399)
NFL Rumors: New Orleans Saints to target Captain Munnerlyn NFL Rumors: New Orleans Saints to target Captain Munnerlyn

if its at the right price he could be our #2 or our slot.. and not to mention his familiarity with the division..

Good grief will ya'll stop claiming opinions as rumors.

Here's what Tripplet said..

The good news is that this year’s free-agent class appears to be loaded with talent. I don’t think the Saints have to go after top names likeBrent Grimes, Aqib Talib or Alterraun Verner. But maybe someone with starting experience in the second or third tier – maybe trying to steal Captain Munnerlyn away from rival Carolina, for example.



This has to stop.

Cruize 02-17-2014 10:24 AM

Re: What now at corner?
 
Stanley Jean-Baptiste. Would instantly be the best CB on the roster.

K Major 02-17-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 578443)
Stanley Jean-Baptiste. Would instantly be the best CB on the roster.

He hasn't played a single down in the NFL yet. How can you assume this?

triman 02-19-2014 04:40 PM

Re: What now at corner?
 
How about moving M. Jenkins to nickel CB ???


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