Saints uniforms are Classics, but what about black helmets?

02-20-2014, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

I like that the Saints, with some slight tweaking, have kept the helmet relatively unchanged through the history of the franchise.

I hate it when franchises make uniform changes just for the sake of selling more replica goods.

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TheOak · 02-20-2014, 11:18 AM

Think about what teams have made changes in the last few years and what was going on when they made those changes.

Owners think that logos and helmets put butts in seats.

rezburna · 02-20-2014, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Top left corner, everything else reminds me of college or crap.

I say go all black even the fleur di lis, just with gold trim around it. I have a vision of the Miami Heat all black uniforms, just with gold everywhere there is white.

Tobias-Reiper · 02-20-2014, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I say go all black even the fleur di lis, just with gold trim around it. I have a vision of the Miami Heat all black uniforms, just with gold everywhere there is white.

Jack Vegas · 02-20-2014, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Two separate items. One is old school unsafe helmets, the other is different colors.

The helmet that Drew wears can be duplicated in the same color or different color and doesn't effect safety or fit.

The leagues concern is fit and safety, even though the memo sent put is horribly unclear. Especially when I've seen players crack a helmet and then just grab someone else's off the sidelines. Didn't Lynch do that this season?

From the article linked above:

Who came up with this new guideline?

The NFL's Head, Neck and Spine Committee and the Player Safety Advisory Panel, both of which are independent, unpaid panels that advise the league on safety issues. They felt that it's safer for a player to stick with the same helmet for the entire season because new helmets take time to be broken in properly.

Is this new guideline a recommendation or a hard rule?

It is not an advisory, and it is not optional. It is a rule. Teams must follow it.

What if a player's helmet is damaged or if he's released by one team and signs with a new team? Won't he need a new helmet?

Of course. The idea isn't to force a player to wear the same helmet all season long. The idea is to minimize the switching out of helmets.

We could still do the 60's throwbacks with the larger fleur de lis, all it would take is just switching the decals.

Originally Posted by TheOak

$100 bucks says the rule is because the league doesn't want to pay to trade mark the alternate uniforms and helmets.

For all its grandstanding and money grubbing, I do believe the league is truly trying to make the game safer. That's not saying the owners really care about the players, they just don't want to get sued into bankruptcy and have the game die off because parents don't want their kids playing anymore.

TheOak · 02-20-2014, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

From the article linked above:

Who came up with this new guideline?

The NFL's Head, Neck and Spine Committee and the Player Safety Advisory Panel, both of which are independent, unpaid panels that advise the league on safety issues. They felt that it's safer for a player to stick with the same helmet for the entire season because new helmets take time to be broken in properly.

Is this new guideline a recommendation or a hard rule?

It is not an advisory, and it is not optional. It is a rule. Teams must follow it.

What if a player's helmet is damaged or if he's released by one team and signs with a new team? Won't he need a new helmet?

Of course. The idea isn't to force a player to wear the same helmet all season long. The idea is to minimize the switching out of helmets.

We could still do the 60's throwbacks with the larger fleur de lis, all it would take is just switching the decals.

So it's like your old man grabbing your collar, looking into your eyes and saying "I SUGGEST you don't screw up".... Only a suggestion lol

B005TED · 02-20-2014, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE BUT WITH A GOLD FACE MASK.

exile · 02-20-2014, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by B005TED

THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE.

Is ugly. Sorry. But it's true.

Jack Vegas · 02-20-2014, 01:08 PM

^ Agreed. Our helmets are perfect right now. Our look is classic. Let the other teams go with the fads that will look dated and stupid in 5 years (if they already don't look stupid that is).

B005TED · 02-20-2014, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by exile

Is ugly. Sorry. But it's true.

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02-20-2014, 11:18 AM	#22
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Black helmets for the New Orleans Saints: What you're saying Think about what teams have made changes in the last few years and what was going on when they made those changes. Owners think that logos and helmets put butts in seats.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,677	Re: Black helmets for the New Orleans Saints: What you're saying Originally Posted by TheOak Top left corner, everything else reminds me of college or crap. I say go all black even the fleur di lis, just with gold trim around it. I have a vision of the Miami Heat all black uniforms, just with gold everywhere there is white. Utah_Saint likes this.

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Black helmets for the New Orleans Saints: What you're saying Originally Posted by rezburna I say go all black even the fleur di lis, just with gold trim around it. I have a vision of the Miami Heat all black uniforms, just with gold everywhere there is white. saintsfan1976, Utah_Saint and rezburna like this.

02-20-2014, 12:39 PM	#25
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Black helmets for the New Orleans Saints: What you're saying Originally Posted by TheOak Two separate items. One is old school unsafe helmets, the other is different colors. The helmet that Drew wears can be duplicated in the same color or different color and doesn't effect safety or fit. The leagues concern is fit and safety, even though the memo sent put is horribly unclear. Especially when I've seen players crack a helmet and then just grab someone else's off the sidelines. Didn't Lynch do that this season? From the article linked above: Who came up with this new guideline? The NFL's Head, Neck and Spine Committee and the Player Safety Advisory Panel, both of which are independent, unpaid panels that advise the league on safety issues. They felt that it's safer for a player to stick with the same helmet for the entire season because new helmets take time to be broken in properly. Is this new guideline a recommendation or a hard rule? It is not an advisory, and it is not optional. It is a rule. Teams must follow it. What if a player's helmet is damaged or if he's released by one team and signs with a new team? Won't he need a new helmet? Of course. The idea isn't to force a player to wear the same helmet all season long. The idea is to minimize the switching out of helmets. We could still do the 60's throwbacks with the larger fleur de lis, all it would take is just switching the decals. Originally Posted by TheOak $100 bucks says the rule is because the league doesn't want to pay to trade mark the alternate uniforms and helmets. For all its grandstanding and money grubbing, I do believe the league is truly trying to make the game safer. That's not saying the owners really care about the players, they just don't want to get sued into bankruptcy and have the game die off because parents don't want their kids playing anymore.
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02-20-2014, 12:43 PM	#26
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Black helmets for the New Orleans Saints: What you're saying Originally Posted by Jack Vegas From the article linked above: Who came up with this new guideline? The NFL's Head, Neck and Spine Committee and the Player Safety Advisory Panel, both of which are independent, unpaid panels that advise the league on safety issues. They felt that it's safer for a player to stick with the same helmet for the entire season because new helmets take time to be broken in properly. Is this new guideline a recommendation or a hard rule? It is not an advisory, and it is not optional. It is a rule. Teams must follow it. What if a player's helmet is damaged or if he's released by one team and signs with a new team? Won't he need a new helmet? Of course. The idea isn't to force a player to wear the same helmet all season long. The idea is to minimize the switching out of helmets. We could still do the 60's throwbacks with the larger fleur de lis, all it would take is just switching the decals. So it's like your old man grabbing your collar, looking into your eyes and saying "I SUGGEST you don't screw up".... Only a suggestion lol

02-20-2014, 12:45 PM	#27
B005TED Who Dat!!??!! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: AThelL Posts: 177	Re: Black helmets for the New Orleans Saints: What you're saying Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE BUT WITH A GOLD FACE MASK.

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exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Black helmets for the New Orleans Saints: What you're saying Originally Posted by B005TED THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE. Is ugly. Sorry. But it's true.
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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Black helmets for the New Orleans Saints: What you're saying ^ Agreed. Our helmets are perfect right now. Our look is classic. Let the other teams go with the fads that will look dated and stupid in 5 years (if they already don't look stupid that is). exile likes this.
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