A receiver for Saints in Round 1?

TheOak · 02-24-2014, 11:09 AM

Take away Jimmy Graham and we need a new very talented receiver.

See New England game.

WhoDatFan26 · 02-24-2014, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Take away Jimmy Graham and we need a new very talented receiver.

See New England game.

This was also evident in the playoff loss to Seattle. They doubled Jimmy, man pressed Colston and dared someone else to beat them. Take OBJ in 1st round then Jarvis in the 3rd.

halloween 65 · 02-24-2014, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Take away Jimmy Graham and we need a new very talented receiver.

See New England game.

Or a very stong run game, just sayin'?

TheOak · 02-24-2014, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Or a very stong run game, just sayin'?

That effects Safety's and LBs, minimal if any on Corners.

I would argue WRs not being able to release leaves CBs close enough to jamb up the screen, and gives the defense to more warm bodies at the line of scrimmage to shut down the edge run, letting DTS and LBs focus on the inside run.

No?

exile · 02-24-2014, 03:18 PM

Well if Mike Evans or Brandin Cooks falls then I wouldn't be too upset to grab one. Maybe even Benjamin but I haven't seen enough of him.

BPA, even if it is a WR.

If we don't pick a WR in the 1st then let's watch closely for Moncrief. I still don't understand why that guy isn't getting more attention.

K Major · 02-24-2014, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by exile

Well if Mike Evans or Brandin Cooks falls then I wouldn't be too upset to grab one. Maybe even Benjamin but I haven't seen enough of him.

BPA, even if it is a WR.

If we don't pick a WR in the 1st then let's watch closely for Moncrief. I still don't understand why that guy isn't getting more attention.

Evans looks like he has all of the tools to become a stud WR. If you watch some of college tape at TAM, he uses that big body to out physical defenders. He is already getting the Vincent Jackson type of comparison.

exile · 02-24-2014, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Evans looks like he has all of the tools to become a stud WR. If you watch some of college tape at TAM, he uses that big body to out physical defenders. He is already getting the Vincent Jackson type of comparison.

How awesome would it be to have an Evans or Benjamin (after fixing the dropsies) running to a corner in the endzone while Graham heads to the other corner? That would make even Richard Sherman quit talking.

halloween 65 · 02-24-2014, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

That effects Safety's and LBs, minimal if any on Corners.

I would argue WRs not being able to release leaves CBs close enough to jamb up the screen, and gives the defense to more warm bodies at the line of scrimmage to shut down the edge run, letting DTS and LBs focus on the inside run.

No?

O.K. point well taken, now on the flip side of that a run power run game( which is a piece or 2 away) makes the D load the box or play tighter to the box which in return opens up the pass, now with that said our WR and TE need to do their job and get off the line for their routes, and this is also the strength of a traditional TE to put a hurt on LB.'s in the run game and passing game. The WR and at least 1 TE we have are more finess than fight so do we replace them all and go with different players or beef up the line and make the run game open things up? I have no problem with a reciever or TE in the draft as long as they fight.

Utah_Saint · 02-24-2014, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

O.K. point well taken, now on the flip side of that a run power run game( which is a piece or 2 away) makes the D load the box or play tighter to the box which in return opens up the pass, now with that said our WR and TE need to do their job and get off the line for their routes, and this is also the strength of a traditional TE to put a hurt on LB.'s in the run game and passing game. The WR and at least 1 TE we have are more finess than fight so do we replace them all and go with different players or beef up the line and make the run game open things up? I have no problem with a reciever or TE in the draft as long as they fight.

No need to replace, PFF ranked Ben Watson in the top 10 for run blocking TEs last season.

02-24-2014, 11:09 AM	#1
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: A receiver for Saints in Round 1? Originally Posted by TheOak Take away Jimmy Graham and we need a new very talented receiver. See New England game. Or a very stong run game, just sayin'?

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: A receiver for Saints in Round 1? Originally Posted by halloween 65 Or a very stong run game, just sayin'? That effects Safety's and LBs, minimal if any on Corners. I would argue WRs not being able to release leaves CBs close enough to jamb up the screen, and gives the defense to more warm bodies at the line of scrimmage to shut down the edge run, letting DTS and LBs focus on the inside run. No?

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exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: A receiver for Saints in Round 1? Well if Mike Evans or Brandin Cooks falls then I wouldn't be too upset to grab one. Maybe even Benjamin but I haven't seen enough of him. BPA, even if it is a WR. If we don't pick a WR in the 1st then let's watch closely for Moncrief. I still don't understand why that guy isn't getting more attention.
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02-24-2014, 03:39 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: A receiver for Saints in Round 1? Originally Posted by exile Well if Mike Evans or Brandin Cooks falls then I wouldn't be too upset to grab one. Maybe even Benjamin but I haven't seen enough of him. BPA, even if it is a WR. If we don't pick a WR in the 1st then let's watch closely for Moncrief. I still don't understand why that guy isn't getting more attention. Evans looks like he has all of the tools to become a stud WR. If you watch some of college tape at TAM, he uses that big body to out physical defenders. He is already getting the Vincent Jackson type of comparison.

02-24-2014, 03:58 PM	#7
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: A receiver for Saints in Round 1? Originally Posted by K Major Evans looks like he has all of the tools to become a stud WR. If you watch some of college tape at TAM, he uses that big body to out physical defenders. He is already getting the Vincent Jackson type of comparison. How awesome would it be to have an Evans or Benjamin (after fixing the dropsies) running to a corner in the endzone while Graham heads to the other corner? That would make even Richard Sherman quit talking. K Major and amazin15 like this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: A receiver for Saints in Round 1? Originally Posted by TheOak That effects Safety's and LBs, minimal if any on Corners. I would argue WRs not being able to release leaves CBs close enough to jamb up the screen, and gives the defense to more warm bodies at the line of scrimmage to shut down the edge run, letting DTS and LBs focus on the inside run. No? O.K. point well taken, now on the flip side of that a run power run game( which is a piece or 2 away) makes the D load the box or play tighter to the box which in return opens up the pass, now with that said our WR and TE need to do their job and get off the line for their routes, and this is also the strength of a traditional TE to put a hurt on LB.'s in the run game and passing game. The WR and at least 1 TE we have are more finess than fight so do we replace them all and go with different players or beef up the line and make the run game open things up? I have no problem with a reciever or TE in the draft as long as they fight.

02-24-2014, 05:06 PM	#9
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: A receiver for Saints in Round 1? Originally Posted by halloween 65 O.K. point well taken, now on the flip side of that a run power run game( which is a piece or 2 away) makes the D load the box or play tighter to the box which in return opens up the pass, now with that said our WR and TE need to do their job and get off the line for their routes, and this is also the strength of a traditional TE to put a hurt on LB.'s in the run game and passing game. The WR and at least 1 TE we have are more finess than fight so do we replace them all and go with different players or beef up the line and make the run game open things up? I have no problem with a reciever or TE in the draft as long as they fight. No need to replace, PFF ranked Ben Watson in the top 10 for run blocking TEs last season. MarchingOn likes this.

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