Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

Because letting stills and Colston run free would be even worse for them ...

Are you telling me he's getting corners from the jump ? Lol he put those digits up against linebackers ...

Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

Put him at wideout ... Those astronomical numbers would be halved ....

Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

Do you bother to look up what you are saying? At all.... or do you just rationalize what you think with incorrect statements?

I looked at two games
Against the Jets:
Chromartie
Milner
Allen
Jarret

SF49
Whitner
Rogers
Brown
Brock


I suppose Talib is a CB/ILB for the Patriots?

Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

Like this?
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c191...ox/Graham1.png

He plays at wide out... why in the heck do you think there is all this TE/WR discussion?

Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

As long as Jerry Jones is alive there's a chance. :dunce:

Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

Many times the Saints try to get Graham lined up against corners. He's too big for them to cover. That's why they usually cover him with linebackers and put a safety over the top most of the time. He's too big for most D-backs and too fast for most linebackers.

A few teams have the personnel to shut him down, but not many.

But I do think you're on to something when you say Colston would run free. In the New England game somebody else should've stepped up since Graham took their best CB. Toon blew it a couple of time. And in the Seattle playoff game, the attention Graham was getting was one of the reasons that Colston had the best game of any receiver last year in Seattle.

Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

Jimmy does fine and puts up numbers on LB's and corners both. There is nothing wrong with his ability other than maybe being a little injury prone due to the way he plays.
I think all this talk about trading him is just posturing by the team to try and get a deal done because they know he wants to be in New Orleans. I don't think the team is that serious about trading him
That being said I think a trade WOULD be best for both parties. JG gets his money and we get two 1st round picks and save enough money to sign some immediate impact FA's. I think this scenario is best for the team.
Lets not try and convince ourselves that he is not an elite player just so its easier to part with him. Whoever gets him will get their moneys worth. Unfortunately we just don't have the luxury of tying up that kind of money in another player.

Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

A lot have trades we have made of high profile players have made Loomis look like a genius. More often than not the player goes on to get injured or their play significantly drops. Look at Brown and Fujita. There are several more that I cannot recall right now but more often than not we get the better end of the deal. I trust the FO to get it done in a manner that will be best for the team.
Meach and Porter are two more.

Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

I agree.

I just don't see how the team can afford him. We're only 8 million under the cap now (before Graham's signing) We still have to Streif, De La Puente, Bush, Haralson, or their replacements and our draft picks and more.

I know it's a long shot that another team trades two firsts but it's fun to imagine packaging two firsts and trading up and possibly getting one of the studs early in the first round two years in a row.

Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag
 

getting coverage from corners occasionally and every single snap are two different things ... Don't twist what I said , if he wants elite WR money he better show up like one