NFL Designates Graham... TE

xan · 03-04-2014, 07:31 AM

a first right of refusal (not a right of first refusal, as some of you may mistakenly call it) pretty much ends discussion by another team. If you know your bid will be second best, there is nothing to be gained unless your a division opponent to making a bid. Given that our division is kinda playing on the edge with cap, I seriously doubt that they would risk devastating their franchise by playing chicken with the Saints. Even then, the FROR would keep them blocked, then signal to the rest of the team that the franchise can be blackmailed.

Jimmy gots ta negotiate reality, not fantasy.

hagan714 · 03-04-2014, 09:37 AM

now two 1s for jimmy might be had but two #1 are cap friendly it will be interesting to see what happens but i think he is a tagged saint for 2014.

TheOak · 03-04-2014, 10:44 AM

I would rather keep Jimmy at 7m that roll the dice on a 1st round pick this year and a first round pick next year.

Danno · 03-04-2014, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I would rather keep Jimmy at 7m that roll the dice on a 1st round pick this year and a first round pick next year.

At 7 million I'd rather keep him too. 7 million is perfect. 8 to 9 is OK, 12 million is absurd.

TheOak · 03-04-2014, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

At 7 million I'd rather keep him too. 7 million is perfect. 8 to 9 is OK, 12 million is absurd.

Is go 9 for a miss match in 13 games like he is.

A miss match of his caliber in this league is very hard to find. How many receiving miss matches of his caliber are there? 3 maybe 4 in a good day.

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2014, 02:27 PM

I have no doubt whatsoever Graham (Sexton) and Loomis get a deal put together, probably around the $9.25 million range. That is very workable given the escalating cap.

Euphoria · 03-04-2014, 03:40 PM

I don't think its to far fetch that a team that is in position to win and win now makes a run at him. 4-5 teams perhaps.

The only flaw is that those teams aren't typically the type that trades for a vet with a high price on there heads they tend to let them go and draft well.

I like what Jimmy is doing though he deserves the money. I like what the Saints are doing... 'hey here he is who has the balls to pull the trigger'. It would make an exciting off season if someone did. But it would be a later round draft pick is the problem.

TheOak · 03-04-2014, 04:31 PM

Why not just give him 10m bonus and balloon the end? 3m cap hit....

2m +1m
2m +1m
2m +1m
2m +1m
2m + 46m

Because he won't sign that cr4p. He wants to be PAID not TOLD.

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2014, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Why not just give him 10m bonus and balloon the end? 3m cap hit....

2m +1m
2m +1m
2m +1m
2m +1m
2m + 46m

Because he won't sign that cr4p. He wants to be PAID not TOLD.

That's why it is a negotiation. There is no reason to do anything until the last minute. Graham is going no where. It will most likely work just like Brees' deal by fitting as much as they could into the current year cap after free agents, other vets and rookies had been signed.

TheOak · 03-04-2014, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's why it is a negotiation. There is no reason to do anything until the last minute. Graham is going no where. It will most likely work just like Brees' deal by fitting as much as they could into the current year cap after free agents, other vets and rookies had been signed.

Who is rushing? Again, all I said was that it is not as easy a task as some believe.

03-04-2014, 07:31 AM	#1
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE a first right of refusal (not a right of first refusal, as some of you may mistakenly call it) pretty much ends discussion by another team. If you know your bid will be second best, there is nothing to be gained unless your a division opponent to making a bid. Given that our division is kinda playing on the edge with cap, I seriously doubt that they would risk devastating their franchise by playing chicken with the Saints. Even then, the FROR would keep them blocked, then signal to the rest of the team that the franchise can be blackmailed. Jimmy gots ta negotiate reality, not fantasy. foreverfan likes this.
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03-04-2014, 09:37 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE now two 1s for jimmy might be had but two #1 are cap friendly it will be interesting to see what happens but i think he is a tagged saint for 2014.

03-04-2014, 10:44 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE I would rather keep Jimmy at 7m that roll the dice on a 1st round pick this year and a first round pick next year.

03-04-2014, 11:17 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE Originally Posted by TheOak I would rather keep Jimmy at 7m that roll the dice on a 1st round pick this year and a first round pick next year. At 7 million I'd rather keep him too. 7 million is perfect. 8 to 9 is OK, 12 million is absurd.

03-04-2014, 11:31 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE Originally Posted by Danno At 7 million I'd rather keep him too. 7 million is perfect. 8 to 9 is OK, 12 million is absurd. Is go 9 for a miss match in 13 games like he is. A miss match of his caliber in this league is very hard to find. How many receiving miss matches of his caliber are there? 3 maybe 4 in a good day. saintsfan1976 likes this.

03-04-2014, 02:27 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE I have no doubt whatsoever Graham (Sexton) and Loomis get a deal put together, probably around the $9.25 million range. That is very workable given the escalating cap.

03-04-2014, 03:40 PM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE I don't think its to far fetch that a team that is in position to win and win now makes a run at him. 4-5 teams perhaps. The only flaw is that those teams aren't typically the type that trades for a vet with a high price on there heads they tend to let them go and draft well. I like what Jimmy is doing though he deserves the money. I like what the Saints are doing... 'hey here he is who has the balls to pull the trigger'. It would make an exciting off season if someone did. But it would be a later round draft pick is the problem.
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03-04-2014, 04:31 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE Why not just give him 10m bonus and balloon the end? 3m cap hit.... 2m +1m 2m +1m 2m +1m 2m +1m 2m + 46m Because he won't sign that cr4p. He wants to be PAID not TOLD.

03-04-2014, 04:47 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE Originally Posted by TheOak Why not just give him 10m bonus and balloon the end? 3m cap hit.... 2m +1m 2m +1m 2m +1m 2m +1m 2m + 46m Because he won't sign that cr4p. He wants to be PAID not TOLD. That's why it is a negotiation. There is no reason to do anything until the last minute. Graham is going no where. It will most likely work just like Brees' deal by fitting as much as they could into the current year cap after free agents, other vets and rookies had been signed.

03-04-2014, 04:51 PM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: NFL Designates Graham... TE Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's why it is a negotiation. There is no reason to do anything until the last minute. Graham is going no where. It will most likely work just like Brees' deal by fitting as much as they could into the current year cap after free agents, other vets and rookies had been signed. Who is rushing? Again, all I said was that it is not as easy a task as some believe.

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