Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking”

Euphoria · 03-10-2014, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by exile

The only move that is really "shocking" is the Sproles release. He still has lots of tread on the tires. And there are no RBs in the draft that are near as good as he is doing what he does.

I don't know about that. I didn't feel he dropped off much but there was just something missing though.

I am ok parting ways with him. I think its a good time to move on before its to late.

SmashMouth · 03-10-2014, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Good comparison. The Patriots have been "renovating"(I really like that term Duncan used in his article) for years. It's a cut throat business and teams need to be ahead of the curve if they want to sustain long term success. You've always got to look at the bigger picture.

True Dat! I remember Randy Moss groveling when he was cut from the Pats.

The Pats nurture an environment whereby players want to play there. I'd like to think the Saints have modeled themselves in that same light.

TheOak · 03-10-2014, 08:18 AM

Graham has seen the Saints cut Shockey, Kasay, and a multitude of other players. Ingram has also seen cuts since he has been a Saint. Neither of them had peep to say when Vilma, Smith, Greer were cut.. There wasn't shock until cuts went to their side of the ball.

I don't buy any shock either. They are ALL football fans and watched plenty of NFL through out their college and High School careers and know about cuts.

What is being learned by some Saints players and Saints fans this off season is the hard lesson in expectations. When you have never been to a Super Bowl an owners expectations for his Billion dollar investment are some what lower than after one has been won. We won a Super bowl in 2009 and haven't been to a NFC Championship game since. Since 2009 we have lost a WC, 2 Divs and not gone one year, Ownership has a taste for a championship and changes are due because of the last 4 years. This is the business side, when your sales team dominates a market for a year then comes back and doesn't for a few years.. its time to change things and let those that escape the cuts know that expectations are high and so will be turn over if they do not get the job done.

saintsfan1976 · 03-10-2014, 10:12 AM

I could have pulled several quotes from this article to make a "headline" from...

I'm excited...
Exciting time in my career...
Ready to step up....
This is the business side of the NFL...

Silly-ness.

Danno · 03-10-2014, 11:02 AM

The only people shocked by these moves failed basic math.

ScottF · 03-10-2014, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

The only people shocked by these moves failed basic math.

time to dig up some Wonderlic scores...

papz · 03-10-2014, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

The only people shocked by these moves failed basic math.

You can be shocked but not surprised at the same time.

jeanpierre · 03-10-2014, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The only people shocked by these moves failed basic math.

Careful, Ingram, or his proxy, went to the University of Alabama...

blackangold · 03-10-2014, 12:19 PM

There is nothing wrong with being shocked over what has happened. The difference is Graham saying he was disappointed and the irony that he is at least partially responsible for the roster moves.

Mardigras9 · 03-10-2014, 01:34 PM

I was excited to have Ingram come on strong later last year, BUT, I am not sold on him yet. He should take this years moves to heart.

03-10-2014, 10:10 AM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” Originally Posted by exile The only move that is really "shocking" is the Sproles release. He still has lots of tread on the tires. And there are no RBs in the draft that are near as good as he is doing what he does. I don't know about that. I didn't feel he dropped off much but there was just something missing though. I am ok parting ways with him. I think its a good time to move on before its to late.

03-10-2014, 09:28 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,088 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” Originally Posted by papz Good comparison. The Patriots have been "renovating"(I really like that term Duncan used in his article) for years. It's a cut throat business and teams need to be ahead of the curve if they want to sustain long term success. You've always got to look at the bigger picture. True Dat! I remember Randy Moss groveling when he was cut from the Pats. The Pats nurture an environment whereby players want to play there. I'd like to think the Saints have modeled themselves in that same light.
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03-10-2014, 08:18 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,058	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” Graham has seen the Saints cut Shockey, Kasay, and a multitude of other players. Ingram has also seen cuts since he has been a Saint. Neither of them had peep to say when Vilma, Smith, Greer were cut.. There wasn't shock until cuts went to their side of the ball. I don't buy any shock either. They are ALL football fans and watched plenty of NFL through out their college and High School careers and know about cuts. What is being learned by some Saints players and Saints fans this off season is the hard lesson in expectations. When you have never been to a Super Bowl an owners expectations for his Billion dollar investment are some what lower than after one has been won. We won a Super bowl in 2009 and haven't been to a NFC Championship game since. Since 2009 we have lost a WC, 2 Divs and not gone one year, Ownership has a taste for a championship and changes are due because of the last 4 years. This is the business side, when your sales team dominates a market for a year then comes back and doesn't for a few years.. its time to change things and let those that escape the cuts know that expectations are high and so will be turn over if they do not get the job done. CoreyO likes this.
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03-10-2014, 10:12 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,069 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” I could have pulled several quotes from this article to make a "headline" from... I'm excited... Exciting time in my career... Ready to step up.... This is the business side of the NFL... Silly-ness.

03-10-2014, 11:02 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” The only people shocked by these moves failed basic math.

03-10-2014, 11:09 AM	#6
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” Originally Posted by Danno The only people shocked by these moves failed basic math. time to dig up some Wonderlic scores...

03-10-2014, 11:18 AM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” Originally Posted by Danno The only people shocked by these moves failed basic math. You can be shocked but not surprised at the same time.
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03-10-2014, 12:24 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” Originally Posted by Danno The only people shocked by these moves failed basic math. Careful, Ingram, or his proxy, went to the University of Alabama... onebyone likes this.

03-10-2014, 12:19 PM	#9
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” There is nothing wrong with being shocked over what has happened. The difference is Graham saying he was disappointed and the irony that he is at least partially responsible for the roster moves.

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Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Mark Ingram finds Saints’ moves “shocking” I was excited to have Ingram come on strong later last year, BUT, I am not sold on him yet. He should take this years moves to heart.

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