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TheOak 03-11-2014 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 582152)
why?


Because that is how signing bonuses and or guaranteed money works. That 750k is 1/4 of his 3m signing bonus.

Guaranteed money, signing bonuses, always stay with the home team whether it's trade or release. Best case scenario for that dead money is that he is designated a post June 1st release and then it can be split over 2 years.

ScottF 03-11-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 582159)
Because that is how signing bonuses and or guaranteed money works. That 750k is 1/4 of his 3m signing bonus.

Guaranteed money, signing bonuses, always stay with the home team whether it's trade or release. Best case scenario for that dead money is that he is designated a post June 1st release and then it can be split over 2 years.

got it, thanks

SaintLeonard 03-11-2014 07:09 PM

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Darren Sproles ‏@darrensproles
WOW! "@espnnfl: THIS JUST IN: Saints now plan to trade RB Darren Sproles due to heavy interest. He will not be released.

Darren Sproles ‏@darrensproles
The stuff u find out on twitter

:lol: Sproles didn't even know. That's gotta be a little awkward.

exile 03-11-2014 07:10 PM

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Crazy

SmashMouth 03-11-2014 07:11 PM

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Report: Saints will trade Sproles | ProFootballTalk

jeanpierre 03-11-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 581890)
A trade is highly unlikely.

I am surprised anyone is trading for a 30+ year old back; but, then again, he still better than many of these whipper-snappers...

New Orleans Saints attempting to trade Darren Sproles rather than release him, report says | NOLA.com

New Orleans Saints intend to trade Darren Sproles - ESPN

Per Triplett, Jarius Byrd is coming to town...


TheOak 03-11-2014 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 582162)
got it, thanks


That was what I couldn't get across to people about signing then trading Graham. A franchise tag is guaranteed, thus becomes dead money..... For us.

TheOak 03-11-2014 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 582173)
I am surprised anyone is trading for a 30+ year old back; but, then again, he still better than many of these whipper-snappers...



New Orleans Saints attempting to trade Darren Sproles rather than release him, report says | NOLA.com



New Orleans Saints intend to trade Darren Sproles - ESPN



Per Triplett, Jarius Byrd is coming to town...



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Sproles is a good back but he is a specialist and as pointed out his returns have suffered. Is he good? Yes

3.5m + a draft pick good? That's stretching it. IMHO.

SmashMouth 03-11-2014 09:43 PM

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A reported 10 teams have expressed interest in Sproles since the news of his potential release broke Friday.

New Orleans Saints attempting to trade Darren Sproles rather than release him, report says | NOLA.com

lee909 03-12-2014 09:41 AM

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A Ravens insider reporting they are interested in Sproles.
Jeff Duncan reckons a low conditional pick, maybe a 6th.

|Mitch| 03-12-2014 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 582454)
A Ravens insider reporting they are interested in Sproles.
Jeff Duncan reckons a low conditional pick, maybe a 6th.

I'd take it and run!

s2kguy 03-12-2014 09:58 AM

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Take the pick and try to find a sleeper for the O-Line

alleycat_126 03-12-2014 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 582456)
I'd take it and run!

Wo!!! Slow your roll, 10 teams are interested... We might get more than what we bargained for I would try sending him to Houston before I would try sending him to Baltimore.

Halo 03-12-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 582458)
Wo!!! Slow your roll, 10 teams are interested... We might get more than what we bargained for I would try sending him to Houston before I would try sending him to Baltimore.

It's a balancing act - what we get and what money is released vs. Sproles' value on the field. I still think this is a tough decision for the front office, but agreed they aren't going to release him until they get the right deal to make it worth it.

exile 03-12-2014 10:08 AM

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If I was Loomis I would call Sproles and act like it was April Fool's day. Then laugh it off and tell him he's still a big part of the team.

lee909 03-12-2014 10:11 AM

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Also by trading him he can be placed in thr AFC.Though the thought of playing him with the Ravens isnt great.


Anyway looking at Drafttek and Bleacherreport (I know) 7 round mocks a few players that stand out at mid round 6.

Cody Hoffman WR BYU
James Hurst OT N.Carolina
Loucheiz Purifoy CB Florida
Aaron Colvin CB Oklahoma (somebody will take the risk late round 3/4 imo)
Jackson Jeffcoat DE/OLD
Jeremy Hill RB LSU
Devin Street WR Pitts
Ryan Grant WR Tulane
Michael Sam OLD/DE

I can see a few of them being off the board personally

lee909 03-12-2014 11:43 AM

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Larry Holder just tweeted that Sproles saying he wants to be released not traded.

exile 03-12-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 582539)
Larry Holder just tweeted that Sproles saying he wants to be released not traded.

Trouble in paradise.


lee909 03-12-2014 11:48 AM

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Saints RB Darren Sproles to me on the handling of his future: "I want to get released. I don't want to be traded. I don't know where they would send me because I have no control over it and I want to be able to pick. The good thing is none of the teams I'm told they're talking to are terrible. It's more than two. I feel I should have more of an idea later on today."

|Mitch| 03-12-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 582544)
Saints RB Darren Sproles to me on the handling of his future: "I want to get released. I don't want to be traded. I don't know where they would send me because I have no control over it and I want to be able to pick. The good thing is none of the teams I'm told they're talking to are terrible. It's more than two. I feel I should have more of an idea later on today."

I'd sit him down and say these are the 10(or however many); pick where you want to go... lol

exile 03-12-2014 11:53 AM

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I don't think he has say.

hagan714 03-12-2014 11:54 AM

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get then picks and reduce the cap baby. if we gotta lose a player like darrin you gotta get something

TheOak 03-12-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 582462)
Also by trading him he can be placed in thr AFC.Though the thought of playing him with the Ravens isnt great.


Hummm.... Decision time. Possibly Sproles in the regular season or face Sproles in the Super Bowl?

lee909 03-12-2014 12:09 PM

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What ever it is when he isn't in black and gold he might want to think twice about coming into the backfield with Vaccaro and Bush.

Jack Vegas 03-12-2014 12:58 PM

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I hope the Saints do right by Sproles. At least give him veto rights or something. I am sure he doesn't want to end up going to some crap team like the Browns.

TheOak 03-12-2014 01:10 PM

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Oh ohhhhh

Sproles has spoken

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?story...98&src=desktop

kcsaints 03-12-2014 01:12 PM

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"The good thing is none of the teams I'm told they're talking to are terrible. It's more than two. I feel I should have more of an idea later on today."

I am dying to know who the teams are!

Danno 03-12-2014 01:13 PM

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WWL Rumor is Sproles to Ravens.

Seer1 03-12-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 582583)
WWL Rumor is Sproles to Ravens.

Hmmm, they only have four picks this year....

|Mitch| 03-12-2014 03:21 PM

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I believe the Ravens were offering a conditional 6th round pick...

Danno 03-12-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 582627)
Hmmm, they only have four picks this year....

Doesn't have to be this year, and doesn't have to be a pick. Maybe a player?

Danno 03-12-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 582629)
I believe the Ravens were offering a conditional 6th round pick...

Its better than an 8th rounder.

lee909 03-12-2014 05:37 PM

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Im reading some Saints fans loosing their mind over a possible cut/trade for Sproles. Have a look at the stats,its the right time to make the break.Stats down ever one of his three years.Its fair to say there would be a drop off from 2011 and he was breaking record for all purpose yards but to drop from 13 game 2012 to 15 games and less numbers in 2013 is a issue

Darren Sproles: Career Stats at NFL.com

ScottF 03-12-2014 06:11 PM

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I would take a 6th, no question.
End of the day, there is only ONE football, and we are usually throwing it (60% of the time)
For the past 3-4 years we have carried 4 backs that could have easily had 5-6 more carries a game. Our backs will be better with more touches, and losing one will not hurt us. We also no longer have the luxury to allot that much cash to RB

papz 03-12-2014 06:32 PM

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ScottF 03-12-2014 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 582719)

heard that on my way home
the man is entitled to his opinion, and who would want to go the Jacksonville?
problem is, that's not how business works
we offered him a restructure, he turned it down, time to move on

SmashMouth 03-12-2014 06:52 PM

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Two number ones anyone?

Euphoria 03-12-2014 07:05 PM

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The suspense is killing me.

although every day he is still on the roster I think is a day closer till we find a way to keep him.

NonieT 03-12-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 582722)
heard that on my way home
the man is entitled to his opinion, and who would want to go the Jacksonville?
problem is, that's not how business works
we offered him a restructure, he turned it down, time to move on

How do you know we offered a restructure?


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