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saintfan 03-21-2014 04:30 PM

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Welp. Every year (and this year is no different) we get beaten over our heads with mock drafts that come from every angle imaginable. In fact I think think I saw Jimmy Hoffa's mock draft late last night. I admit it had been a long day, and it was very late, but I swear it.

Anyway, what's the value? What do YOU think about all this mocking? Multiple choices allowed!

ChrisXVI 03-21-2014 04:53 PM

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Was this really worth being a new topic? What does it have to do with the Saints?

saintfan 03-21-2014 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 584716)
Was this really worth being a new topic? What does it have to do with the Saints?

Yes. Everything. :shock:

exile 03-21-2014 05:21 PM

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Derrick Carr. First overall. :shock:

ChrisXVI 03-21-2014 05:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 584717)
Yes. Everything. :shock:


Fair enough!

Danno 03-21-2014 05:55 PM

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Polls are gay, mocks are gay, and combining polls and mocks is flaming gay.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...EsDLdMjUiyY0-K

Ohh, I gotta pole you can mock!!!!

jeanpierre 03-21-2014 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 584728)
Polls are gay, mocks are gay, and combining polls and mocks is flaming gay.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...EsDLdMjUiyY0-K

Ohh, I gotta pole you can mock!!!!

Well that answers that question...

saintfan 03-21-2014 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 584728)
Polls are gay, mocks are gay, and combining polls and mocks is flaming gay.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...EsDLdMjUiyY0-K

Ohh, I gotta pole you can mock!!!!

Which one did you vote for?

:lolup:

foreverfan 03-21-2014 07:10 PM

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This is required to straighten out this thread.

http://www.aclasscelebs.com/wallpape...ra_reid002.jpg

Rugby Saint II 03-21-2014 08:20 PM

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I'm with the rest of the scientologists.................err, scientists.

lsutigerfan 03-21-2014 08:48 PM

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Here is an idea, don't log onto the mock draft websites.

|Mitch| 03-21-2014 08:50 PM

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I tend to like reading mock drafts, interesting to see who they pick and the reasoning behind the picks.

Plus; it gives me something to read leading up to the draft

ChrisXVI 03-21-2014 09:57 PM

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We already have a huge thread dedicated to this topic.

The Dude 03-21-2014 10:32 PM

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I voted they are ok. I do not follow college football much out of the SEC so I am not familiar with the players out there. One thing I do get from these mocks are names of players to research and in doing so become familiar with them.
I don't think I have ever seen a mock draft actually be right though.

saintfan 03-21-2014 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 584757)
We already have a huge thread dedicated to this topic.

Bet you can't find Hoffa anywhere in it...

Bada bing!

http://i43.tower.com/images/mm111968...-cover-art.jpg

halloween 65 03-22-2014 04:40 AM

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A poll for a poll. Interesting scientifically speaking. There are stranger things out there!! But Janis rocks!!

TheOak 03-22-2014 05:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 584757)
We already have a huge thread dedicated to this topic.


Nope. You have huge threads dedicated to mock drafts and the Saints draft, this will be a huge thread dedicated to the discussion of "mock drafts" as a subject. Or a mocking of mock drafts if you will.

My point would be that running mock draft scenarios before at least two weeks of free agency is down is really time spent randomly picking names out of a hat.

The thread with its poll about Saints needs.... The first 3/4 is fairly moot at this point because of how much needs have changed due to signings.

I get the "if you don't like mock drafts don't read the thread", well if you don't like the mocking of mock drafts, don't read this one.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever produced a mock draft with at least 50% accuracy when compared to that seasons Saints draft?

TheOak 03-22-2014 08:29 AM

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All that said, I do support the opinion that there is a whole hell of a lot more thought, research,and understanding put into mock drafts than there is being put into the average comment about the salary cap, Jimmy Graham's contract, or Mark Ingram's running.

Mock on!

alleycat_126 03-22-2014 08:43 AM

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It's interesting..... that's all. Don't make a big deal out of interesting.

SmashMouth 03-22-2014 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 584766)
Bet you can't find Hoffa anywhere in it...

Bada bing!

http://i43.tower.com/images/mm111968...-cover-art.jpg

... in Detroit?

ProMallNinja 03-22-2014 10:09 AM

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What's interesting to me about the "mock draft" process is that the media creates this 20-40 player pool that must be selected before anyone else. Then the public becomes outraged when their team passes on a player who's public perception is more popular for a player that the team has spent loads of money and man hours on scouting him. It's also becomes pretty clear when we have a very deep year when none of the mocks ever look the same as their counterparts. There has been a lot of variety in this year's mock draft selections. It's at least interesting enough to help pass the time while we wait for bigger football fish to fry. :-)

jeanpierre 03-22-2014 11:29 AM

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One benefit of mock drafts is you become more familiar with players, their skill set, and other teams tendencies and needs...

While most good teams will select BPA, can't see a team using a 34 defense taking a three technique defensive tackle unless it's an outstanding player and to strategically prevent certain teams from getting said player and/or to trade the player for equal value to meet a team personnel need...

Shuffling and reshuffling also tends to get the overall player's value into a better perspective; even though once the real bullets, spears, arrows let fly, you really find out what you got...

At the end of the day, Mocking is Rehearsing, and as luck favors the prepared individual, teams mock so that they may be ready should an opportunity (i.e. trade offer, unexpected prospect availability) present itself and some prior thought has been put into a decision that may be made rather quickly...

For amateurs and fans who enjoy the process, they have a better understanding of what is happening as NFL decision makers are drafting and can have a deeper appreciation to some degree certain events that take place more so than the casual fan...

SaintsBro 03-22-2014 11:38 AM

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I like reading all the lofty discussion of draft predictions and what the Saints should do, and then Payton and Loomis goes and picks some guy from Canada, some dude from a tiny school that no one has ever heard of, or a guy who didn't even play football in college.

Utah_Saint 03-22-2014 11:40 AM

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Mocks encourage discussions about prospective players and team needs, both the Saints and other teams. It's the offseason, having things to discuss is a good thing.

Personally, I learn a lot about the players coming out. I don't watch much college ball so I get most of my draft info from guys on here doing Mocks.

And as always, if someone doesn't like power rankings, mocks or polls, they shouldn't click on threads that have power rankings, mocks or polls in the title.

Just my opinion.

Danno 03-22-2014 12:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 584822)
Mocks encourage discussions about prospective players and team needs, both the Saints and other teams. It's the offseason, having things to discuss is a good thing.

Personally, I learn a lot about the players coming out. I don't watch much college ball so I get most of my draft info from guys on here doing Mocks.

And as always, if someone doesn't like power rankings, mocks or polls, they shouldn't click on threads that have power rankings, mocks or polls in the title.

Just my opinion.

Are you talking about mocks or player profiles? I love reading the player profiles, but mocks are very similar to power rankings. Sometimes fun to read if the writer comments on each team and each pick, but just a list of teams-player is kinda boring.

saintfan 03-22-2014 03:14 PM

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Player profiles are more or less the truth. Mocks are pretend, by definition.

SmashMouth 03-22-2014 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 584848)
Player profiles are more or less the truth. Mocks are pretend, by definition.

...sorta like an impersonation of Zoey!

Marlboro Man 03-23-2014 07:24 AM

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OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG, AHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Utah_Saint 03-23-2014 09:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 584836)
Are you talking about mocks or player profiles? I love reading the player profiles, but mocks are very similar to power rankings. Sometimes fun to read if the writer comments on each team and each pick, but just a list of teams-player is kinda boring.

I'll admit they're mostly above my head because I have to go find the profiles to know who anyone is.

That being said, there's enough people on here that do it, they must be getting something out of it. Like...

"I picked up player X to fill to upgrade position 1"... "that leaves me player Y in the next round for position 2"

TheOak 03-24-2014 08:31 AM

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Personally, I start reading player profiles after the draft because it makes the draft more enjoyable for me. I have yet to see anyone successfully predict the Saints draft picks and its more time than I care to spend on 300+ players when we will get 7ish of them. I am not much of a fan of getting my mind set on a few players and we end up picking none of them...

I like digging into the Salary cap because there are at minimum some basic knowns and there is a lot that is either not understood or misunderstood. I cant do that for the draft, there are so many variables that is is nearly impossible to know... For me it is much like sitting around guessing lottery numbers, and even with lottery numbers there are more knowns.

For instance in Round One of the draft, there is no way to know who will be available for the Saints pick this season @ 27. To even be able to guess at that, I would have to know how 26 teams make their picks, either Need or BPA.... Then there is the issue that we as die hard fans don't know how our own team picks.

I do not even run mock drafts for Fantasy Football, it just isn't time spent with any value what so ever.


Here is an example:

Kenny Vaccaro - Our first round draft pick. No reference to any mock draft and only reference in the search was because there was a visit. Hagen did say he would go in the 1st.
http://blackandgold.com/saints/57099...houghts-2.html

Marlboro Man 05-26-2014 12:23 PM

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Fugedaboutit!!

voodooido 05-26-2014 12:49 PM

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I think you should be banned for a month over this BS. Put that in your poll.....

Cruize 05-27-2014 01:42 AM

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It's good to know what ISN'T going to happen.


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