Brees clarifies statement, says Graham defines new position

jnormand · 03-22-2014, 03:07 PM

I don't have a problem with Brees saying what he's said. I do have a problem with this stupid TE vs WR crap. He's a damn TE not a ****in WR!

Garry42 · 03-22-2014, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I don't have a problem with Brees saying what he's said. I do have a problem with this stupid TE vs WR crap. He's a damn TE not a ****in WR!

I agree with you, but there is getting to be a grey area between the two positions that didn't exist in the past. "Hybrid" is probably the best definition. The question then is....what is that position (or player) worth?

billyt81 · 03-22-2014, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I don't have a problem with Brees saying what he's said. I do have a problem with this stupid TE vs WR crap. He's a damn TE not a ****in WR!

I totally disagree. He lines up at WR nearly 75% of the time. He can't move a DE or an OLB. Colston blocks better. He led the NFL with 16 receiving TD and caught more fade routes than anyone in the league. I say just put him at WR permanently and get a Hoby Brenner type(slow dependable receiver/blocks like a tackle) to play TE. He's as good a WR as Calvin Johnson when he's healthy.

rezburna · 03-22-2014, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

I totally disagree. He lines up at WR nearly 75% of the time. He can't move a DE or an OLB. Colston blocks better. He led the NFL with 16 receiving TD and caught more fade routes than anyone in the league. I say just put him at WR permanently and get a Hoby Brenner type(slow dependable receiver/blocks like a tackle) to play TE. He's as good a WR as Calvin Johnson when he's healthy.

He's not close to the receiver Calvin Johnson is. Healthy or not. Calvin Johnson NEVER gets to line up with his hand in the dirt and go one on one with a linebacker or safety. Jimmy Graham had 16 td's because Drew Brees force fed him the ball and tried to use him as a crutch in every situation. We suffered because of it. Jimmy Graham isn't better then a healthy Grownkowski. Let's not go crazy.

And if he's not a TE, he shouldn't have accepted his Pro Bowl designation. He needs to decline all records that he may have broken or will break as a TE. He needs to stop doing any and all te activities at practice and line up strictly as a receiver 100% of the time.

TheOak · 03-24-2014, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by billyt81

I totally disagree. He lines up at WR nearly 75% of the time. He can't move a DE or an OLB. Colston blocks better. He led the NFL with 16 receiving TD and caught more fade routes than anyone in the league. I say just put him at WR permanently and get a Hoby Brenner type(slow dependable receiver/blocks like a tackle) to play TE. He's as good a WR as Calvin Johnson when he's healthy.

He does not line up as a Wide Receiver. He lines up in the slot and the slot is not a position, it is a duty. WRs, TEs, RBs, all line up there during games.

Slot Receiver is not defined as a position in the CBA, if he played Center that would be a different story. Guard and Tackle are clearly defined rolls on the field, lining up in the slot is not.

That said, he was drafted as a TE, he allowed his name to be put in record books as a TE, he has answered questions about being compared to other TEs, and when he goes to meetings or practice it is with the TEs.

He has been a duck for three years, he is not a goose just because its contract time, or because he out preforms other geese.

03-22-2014, 03:07 PM	#1
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,769	Re: Brees clarifies statement, says Graham defines new position I don't have a problem with Brees saying what he's said. I do have a problem with this stupid TE vs WR crap. He's a damn TE not a ****in WR! teddybarexxx likes this.

03-22-2014, 04:53 PM	#2
Garry42 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 785	Re: Brees clarifies statement, says Graham defines new position Originally Posted by jnormand I don't have a problem with Brees saying what he's said. I do have a problem with this stupid TE vs WR crap. He's a damn TE not a ****in WR! I agree with you, but there is getting to be a grey area between the two positions that didn't exist in the past. "Hybrid" is probably the best definition. The question then is....what is that position (or player) worth?

03-22-2014, 08:39 PM	#3
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Brees clarifies statement, says Graham defines new position Originally Posted by jnormand I don't have a problem with Brees saying what he's said. I do have a problem with this stupid TE vs WR crap. He's a damn TE not a ****in WR! I totally disagree. He lines up at WR nearly 75% of the time. He can't move a DE or an OLB. Colston blocks better. He led the NFL with 16 receiving TD and caught more fade routes than anyone in the league. I say just put him at WR permanently and get a Hoby Brenner type(slow dependable receiver/blocks like a tackle) to play TE. He's as good a WR as Calvin Johnson when he's healthy.

03-22-2014, 08:48 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Brees clarifies statement, says Graham defines new position Originally Posted by billyt81 I totally disagree. He lines up at WR nearly 75% of the time. He can't move a DE or an OLB. Colston blocks better. He led the NFL with 16 receiving TD and caught more fade routes than anyone in the league. I say just put him at WR permanently and get a Hoby Brenner type(slow dependable receiver/blocks like a tackle) to play TE. He's as good a WR as Calvin Johnson when he's healthy. He's not close to the receiver Calvin Johnson is. Healthy or not. Calvin Johnson NEVER gets to line up with his hand in the dirt and go one on one with a linebacker or safety. Jimmy Graham had 16 td's because Drew Brees force fed him the ball and tried to use him as a crutch in every situation. We suffered because of it. Jimmy Graham isn't better then a healthy Grownkowski. Let's not go crazy. And if he's not a TE, he shouldn't have accepted his Pro Bowl designation. He needs to decline all records that he may have broken or will break as a TE. He needs to stop doing any and all te activities at practice and line up strictly as a receiver 100% of the time. SapperSaint, halloween 65, Joker and 1 others like this.
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03-24-2014, 06:57 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Brees clarifies statement, says Graham defines new position Originally Posted by billyt81 I totally disagree. He lines up at WR nearly 75% of the time. He can't move a DE or an OLB. Colston blocks better. He led the NFL with 16 receiving TD and caught more fade routes than anyone in the league. I say just put him at WR permanently and get a Hoby Brenner type(slow dependable receiver/blocks like a tackle) to play TE. He's as good a WR as Calvin Johnson when he's healthy. He does not line up as a Wide Receiver. He lines up in the slot and the slot is not a position, it is a duty. WRs, TEs, RBs, all line up there during games. Slot Receiver is not defined as a position in the CBA, if he played Center that would be a different story. Guard and Tackle are clearly defined rolls on the field, lining up in the slot is not. That said, he was drafted as a TE, he allowed his name to be put in record books as a TE, he has answered questions about being compared to other TEs, and when he goes to meetings or practice it is with the TEs. He has been a duck for three years, he is not a goose just because its contract time, or because he out preforms other geese. SapperSaint and Joker like this.
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