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I'm starting to think more and more WR is where we go first round of the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if we took two WR's in this draft.

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Which scares me because besides JG he is about the only legit receiver we have. Stills Is good and will improve but I honestly don't see JG staying healthy all year. If Colton is still hurt or reinjures himself we are left with Stills and a rookie most likely.

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really? no crap

this has been going on for what? 3 years solid now. if there is one contract that needs to get redone it is his. plus you know he will not make the entire season and thats been going on for what? since he signed the contract.

i love the guy but fact are facts the saints gave out big contracts after the super bowl win and we have been struggling with them ever since.

good news is he is coming to the end of his contract so a move to get his numbers in line should be coming in the next couple of years

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Doesn't sound good for Colston at all. It sounds like he could be one of those after June 1st cuts. Yes, the Saints will more than likely have to draft some WRs this year.

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Will draft WR x 2 this season.. At least.

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This is gaining momentum...

BPA at our spot I still say its going to be WR in round one.

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1st- WR Odell Beckham Jr
2nd- WR Donte Moncrief
3rd- CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste

I can see it. :p

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Well this draft is suppose to be one of the deepest at WR, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Saints take two.

1st WR
2nd CB
3rd C
4th WR

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I do not see any other option for us. We need receivers... Not want them.

Sproles - Gone
Moore - Gone
Meachem - Gone
Colston - fighting injury
Morgan - injury prone
Graham - foot battles
Stills - good to go
Toon - drops
Tanner... ?
Givens.... ?
Hawkins .....?

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Beckham would give us the WR version of Bush/Sproles. Kinda our own Percy Harvin without the injury bug.

Moncrief would give us just an all around good WR. Perhaps Colston Part II

SJB would be a good project at CB. Long and rangy.

The more I read about Moncrief the more I wonder why he's not projected as a late 1st early 2nd?

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Possibly this?

WEAKNESSES: Perhaps the only thing standing in Moncrief's way of becoming the first "skill-position" player from Mississippi to earn a first round draft selection since Eli Manning (No. 1 overall, 2004) is the question about his straight-line speed. Moncrief was not caught from behind on tapes viewed but the big-bodied receiver may not possess elite timed speed.
Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Negatives
Donte Moncrief Scouting Report: NFL Outlook for Mississippi WR | Bleacher Report
Takes a very passive approach to catching the ball, and usually lets the ball come into his chest rather than catching away from his body.
Struggles to focus on the ball when locked in tight coverage and misses a lot of difficult but catchable passes.
Body control is poor—struggles to position himself to box out the defender and adjust to the ball quickly enough to make plays as a possession receiver.
Phenomenal workout numbers, but it doesn't always translate to the field.
40-yard dash and 10-yard split times just didn't translate to consistent separation in college.
Tried to play like a pure speed receiver in college but he doesn't have the elite separation ability to play that same role in the NFL and will need to develop his ability to win with his size.
Frequently failed to get on the same page with his quarterback in terms of depth and timing of routes; it wasn't always necessarily his fault, but its an issue worth inquiring about.
Athletic enough to make one move after the catch but lacks the agility to put together multiple moves to weave his way through traffic.

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Matthews will be a Saint.But if we don't get a stud C we could have 10 Speedy Gonzalos's and it want matter. No time to throw or step up to throw.

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Also concerns...

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I love this place. :razz: Great info ya'll.

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I beckum jr is there its church, he can help in returns also.

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I can't say that I am a huge fan of Beckham. I was looking at his stats from this year and he really made his hey against Furman, UAB, and Mississippi State. He played well against Georgia, but was held in check against Alabama and Auburn. When it comes to looking at prospects I like to see what the actual production is like rather than potential. I'm also weary of any LSU receivers in the draft. Again, you can't question how good a program LSU has, but outside of Bowe (and he has had a questionable career to this point) they just don't produce consistently in the NFL.

Personally I'd prefer Cooks or Lee if they fall to 27. If not, best player available or best defensive player on the board would not hurt us.

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a lot of his lower production was from the qb being on his asse and couldn't get the ball out, but ill respect ur input. the guy will be a star in the nfl, he will be a steve smith type receiver with better hands i'm just saying.

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Loomis likes to sell tickets... There will be at least 1 LSU player picked up this year.

I believe 2013 is the only year that we have not had at least 1 since Sean Payton got here.

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I respect your opinion as well, St. Thomas. If the Saints take Beckham I'll hope you are right and I am wrong. Its just the track record of LSU receivers that worries me.

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The Saints have not drafted a player from LSU since 2010 (Al Woods, 5th round). Two since 2004, which was the Devery Henderson pick.

I think Saint fans are selling the Dome out with or without LSU selections. But as I said, if we do select Beckham, I hope I am wrong about him. Time will tell...

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I suppose i should have said tickets and jerseys... I wasn't meaning any LSU player in particular but there will be one.

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Odell Beckham. Jordan Matthews. Moncrief. Brian Cooks. Two of them would be nice. Beckham and Cooks would make us the fastest WR core in the league when put together with Stills and Morgan.

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I seem to be in the minority but I see Morgan just like Ivory.. If you get 10 games out of him in a season you are lucky.

Even with his 14 games in 2012 he still only had 21 targets and 10 receptions.

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Doesn't mean he won't be targeted more in 2014...

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That is an interesting comparison. I liked what I saw out of Morgan in 12, and like Ivory, when he was in the game he seemed to make a positive impact.

I still like the idea of going after a guy like Sidney Rice as a stop gap for this season. If the contract is right, and he'd take a prove it to me type contract I don't see how that can't hurt. It would give us a little bit more flexibility to take the BPA in the first round.

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Doesn't mean he will be healthy for more than his 4 games per season average. :)

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Ah, there is a lot of LSU wr's in the league and have done good. Bowe, Henderson, Doucet, Lafell, Randle and Toliver are all still playing. Bowe has been a beast with Henderson and Lafell playing solid. Randle is a future stud. So yes, you are wrong.

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Nah, I agree. Just hoping for the best out of him.

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With all due respect voodooido, you sound like an LSU supporter... and that is fine. However, we are talking about spending a first round pick here. Bowe is the only receiver who has produced anything close to what a first round pick should produce. And, I think if you ask any other Chief fan they might tell you he has been more inconsistent, than consistent. Randle was decent last season, but needs to improve on his route running. He should get his chance this year coming. Devery was a solid receiver who would spread the field with his speed. However, he was not a first rounder and never produced as that. Doucet, Lafell and Toliver... really?

As I said, if we do select Beckham I sure hope you are right and you can tell me how wrong I was for many years to come. However, until an LSU receiver can show consistency as a top level preformer... I'd rather select a player with better producion than potential.

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I too hope for 19 games from him.

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I would literally crap my pants

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I still like Colston. I think he has gas in the tank and can be a playmaker. He showed up big in the playoffs too. Not saying we don't need some WR help. What a great mentor Colston is for some young WRs.

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Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt
the more i look at the kid the more i like him as a possible colstons replacement. he is a solid candidate to become the #1 wr the saints have never had.

Jarvis Landry LSU
Moore replacement needs to improve that 40 time of 4.77 at the combine. product and talent is there either way.Toughness, route running and hands second to none.

Speed can be had later in the draft. Ton of Mechuem/Henderson types in this draft