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halloween 65 04-01-2014 03:37 PM

Re: Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 586338)
OC - #1 we aint got one

after that add whatever the BPA is in the draft

Yep, Center should be a very high priority. Brees need to step up to throw and the backs need a beast leading the way.

Boutte 04-01-2014 04:22 PM

Re: Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
Jim Finks used to say "When in doubt take the big man." That seemed to serve him pretty well. The game really is won or lost in the trenches. I'm not saying to draft a center in the first round but it should be very high on the list of priorities.

We've got some guys that have been around for a couple of years so there must be a reason we've kept them around. Lelito was up and down so it's hard for somebody like me to try evaluate his potential. If he really is starter material that's great. One less position to fill.

Quality depth at OL is under rated. Even if the starters are all in place we need a guy who can fill in at center/guard with out a huge drop off.

Danno 04-01-2014 04:27 PM

Re: Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 586395)
And 9 more undrafted.

Look at the depth. What's behind Colston? He misses a few games a year or plays hurt... What's after Stills?

4 WR set?

If you include UDFA's and maybe another veteran, then yes I can see 4 or 5 new WR's brought into camp, but I can't see drafting 3 of them. I'll buy two, but 3?

Colston
Stills
Morgan
Draft pick#1
Draft pick #2
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Toon
Tanner
Givens
Hawkins

Hmmm, I can see another WR in there somewhere.

rezburna 04-01-2014 04:35 PM

Re: Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 586411)
If you include UDFA's and maybe another veteran, then yes I can see 4 or 5 new WR's brought into camp, but I can't see drafting 3 of them. I'll buy two, but 3?

Colston
Stills
Morgan
Draft pick#1
Draft pick #2
-------------
Toon
Tanner
Givens
Hawkins

Hmmm, I can see another WR in there somewhere.

We'll probably add Sidney Rice into the fold and draft a receiver or two.

Utah_Saint 04-01-2014 05:14 PM

Re: Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
If DLP ends up somewhere else, and Lelito is the plan to replace him, we'll need a back up guard to take Lelito's spot and it might not be a bad idea to get another backup G/C on top of that.

TheOak 04-01-2014 05:17 PM

Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 586411)
If you include UDFA's and maybe another veteran, then yes I can see 4 or 5 new WR's brought into camp, but I can't see drafting 3 of them. I'll buy two, but 3?



Colston

Stills

Morgan

Draft pick#1

Draft pick #2

-------------

Toon

Tanner

Givens

Hawkins



Hmmm, I can see another WR in there somewhere.


I'm not up to speed on Givens or Hawkins.

The rest:
Colston - Ave 10.6 starts a season last 3 ... Health

Morgan - Ave 1.6 starts a season last 3

Stills - g2g

Toon - Needs work on hands.

Tanner - love the heart.... Sort of ends there.

We are contenders once again and we need reliable depth. Not superstars, my concerns with both Colston and Morgan are health, they are both outstanding players...... But consistent players on the field running routes.

I'm keeping in mind how dependent our offense is on timing. Drew doesn't throw to the receiver, he throws to the x and the receiver is expected to be there. Polar opposite of Manziel.

hagan714 04-02-2014 04:07 AM

Re: Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 586434)
If DLP ends up somewhere else, and Lelito is the plan to replace him,

Right there is the thought that scares me the most. last thing we need is any push up the middle on Drew. the sack totals will be twice what they were last year. Lito did not come close to looking good OC last year. he seemed so so as a back to OG. he is a work in progress and no were near ready to step into the starting position. heck i had him as a player that needed to be replaced/upgraded.

If Lito is the starter my first words to Drew would be get more insurance because dam your odds of making it through the season just went down the toilet.

To big of a risk. As Drew goes so do the saints.

Yet I fear the saints will play it cute yet again on the OL and actual try to pull this Lito at center thing off.

hagan714 04-02-2014 04:11 AM

Re: Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 586411)
If you include UDFA's and maybe another veteran, then yes I can see 4 or 5 new WR's brought into camp, but I can't see drafting 3 of them. I'll buy two, but 3?

Colston
Stills
Morgan
Draft pick#1
Draft pick #2
-------------
Toon
Tanner
Givens
Hawkins

Hmmm, I can see another WR in there somewhere.

Colston
Stills
-------------
Draft pick#1
Draft pick #2
Morgan
Toon
Tanner
Givens
Hawkins

TheOak 04-02-2014 08:22 AM

Re: Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 586411)
If you include UDFA's and maybe another veteran, then yes I can see 4 or 5 new WR's brought into camp, but I can't see drafting 3 of them. I'll buy two, but 3?

Just resigned Haralson so the FO is addressing certain wants/depth needs through FA.

I see the process and it seems to me like we are checking boxes in Free Agency every where but the WR area... My interpretation is that we are going to draft offensive weapons heavily.

On a 3 year outlook business model: Addressing an aging fleet
Colston will be gone, and we have no other WR veterans of over 4 years. We draft 3 WR, bring in 4-6 more undrafted in the hopes of fielding at the very least 2-3 starting WRs. This marks the transition from Brees to a rookie QB that will need a hand full of veteran WRs to cut his teeth on until he is up to speed.

Look at the upside of what can be read between the lines. Payton knows Brees is on his last contract and is setting him self up for the post Drew Brees era.. Sort of tells me he plans on staying :):bng:

Danno 04-02-2014 08:46 AM

Re: Analyzing Saints depth chart: Offense
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 586515)
Just resigned Haralson so the FO is addressing certain wants/depth needs through FA.

I see the process and it seems to me like we are checking boxes in Free Agency every where but the WR area... My interpretation is that we are going to draft offensive weapons heavily.

On a 3 year outlook business model: Addressing an aging fleet
Colston will be gone, and we have no other WR veterans of over 4 years. We draft 3 WR, bring in 4-6 more undrafted in the hopes of fielding at the very least 2-3 starting WRs. This marks the transition from Brees to a rookie QB that will need a hand full of veteran WRs to cut his teeth on until he is up to speed.

Look at the upside of what can be read between the lines. Payton knows Brees is on his last contract and is setting him self up for the post Drew Brees era.. Sort of tells me he plans on staying :):bng:

Agreed, I think this will be a draft with all but 1 or maybe 2 players on defense. I can see 2 WR's, RB, OC and an OT with maybe a CB or LB thrown in there. Maybe even a TE too.

I think our defense worshippers will be very very disappointed.


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