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Luda34 04-03-2014 10:33 PM

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I really hope we don't let Bush go I believe he's a good player but I know he can go to Atlanta and start. I know people have there own opinion but the way Vaccaro plays he want make the whole season and he's a good backup player on our team.

FinSaint 04-03-2014 11:01 PM

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Bush would add some quality depth to the safety position, but I don't think that depth is worth upwards of $2M/yr.

I would of course prefer he'd stay with the Saints, but in all honesty I haven't been all that impressed with his play, and his playoff performance might've skewed his value in the eyes of the masses.

Still, it's a shame it'll be the Failclowns... :-(

jeanpierre 04-03-2014 11:19 PM

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Signing Marcus Ball didn't tip anyone off?!?

Did everyone really think we'd be deep at Safety like we were at running back before last season?!?

This is the modern NFL, baby...

Luda34 04-03-2014 11:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 586812)
Bush would add some quality depth to the safety position, but I don't think that depth is worth upwards of $2M/yr.

I would of course prefer he'd stay with the Saints, but in all honesty I haven't been all that impressed with his play, and his playoff performance might've skewed his value in the eyes of the masses.

Still, it's a shame it'll be the Failclowns... :-(

I agree with everything you said

hagan714 04-04-2014 06:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586813)
Signing Marcus Ball didn't tip anyone off?!?

Did everyone really think we'd be deep at Safety like we were at running back before last season?!?

This is the modern NFL, baby...

see here i thought ball took harpers spot grrrrrrr

great depth dam i hate to see the loss. Kenny coming back from a bum knee and all Bush is worth the 750k or whatever it is for one year. you know what your getting. let the new kid get his feet wet.

TheOak 04-04-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 586834)
see here i thought ball took harpers spot grrrrrrr

great depth dam i hate to see the loss. Kenny coming back from a bum knee and all Bush is worth the 750k or whatever it is for one year. you know what your getting. let the new kid get his feet wet.

Nothing wrong with Vaccaros knee.

hagan714 04-04-2014 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 586836)
Nothing wrong with Vaccaros knee.

sorry fractured ankle i was going to type leg but screwed up with knee

caddieman 04-04-2014 07:18 AM

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Thanks for our new Saftey Brees!

lee909 04-04-2014 07:26 AM

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Enjoy him, we will enjoy watching Byrd pick off melty ice.

|Mitch| 04-04-2014 07:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 586839)
Thanks for our new Saftey Brees!

Not like we're complaining; good luck with Vaccaro, Byrd, and Ball :bng:

caddieman 04-04-2014 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 586841)
Enjoy him, we will enjoy watching Byrd pick off melty ice.

Lol we will thanks

ChrisXVI 04-04-2014 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 586839)
Thanks for our new Saftey Brees!


We sign one of the best safeties in the league and you guys sign one of our backups... Boy oh boy we are being screwed over lol.

TheOak 04-04-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 586839)
Thanks for our new Saftey Brees!


I'm sure you'll manage to Falcant him up before the season starts.

caddieman 04-04-2014 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 586846)
We sign one of the best safeties in the league and you guys sign one of our backups... Boy oh boy we are being screwed over lol.

Who said you were getting screwed over? Just thanking ya for our new safety!

Boutte 04-04-2014 07:58 AM

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We need three quality starters. Our 3rd safety is on the field a lot more than on most teams. Losing Bush isn't a major disaster but it is a set back. One more hole to fill. We don't know if Ball is even NFL material so I'm not counting that egg before it hatches.

|Mitch| 04-04-2014 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 586850)
Just thanking ya for our new safety!

so with the Bush signing; who would you say has the better secondary?

|Mitch| 04-04-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 586851)
We don't know if Ball is even NFL material so I'm not counting that egg before it hatches.

It is the CFL, but he had 142 tackles, 5 special teams tackles, 7 sacks, 4 interceptions for 75 yards in 2 seasons 2 defensive tds, 3 fumble recoveries as well :bng:

Hicks translated from the CFL quite easily and well, so I'm gonna assume the coaches know what they're doing :bng:

Utah_Saint 04-04-2014 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 586853)
It is the CFL, but he had 142 tackles, 5 special teams tackles, 7 sacks, 4 interceptions for 75 yards in 2 seasons :bng:

Hicks translated from the CFL quite easily and well, so I'm gonna assume the coaches know what they're doing :bng:

I don't think Hicks ever actually played for the CFL. I think he got drafted by a Canadian team but I don't think he played.

TheOak 04-04-2014 08:08 AM

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I wound say a 3 year contract in a season when we are giving out 1 year deals speaks a little to his NFL worthy tangibles.

|Mitch| 04-04-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 586854)
I don't think Hicks ever actually played for the CFL. I think he got drafted by a Canadian team but I don't think he played.

that was the canadian CWAA Canada West Universities Athletic Association, drafted but didn't play you're right... Still at least Ball played in the FBS :rofl:

TheOak 04-04-2014 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 586850)
Who said you were getting screwed over? Just thanking ya for our new safety!

Thanking us for the new safety? LOL Bush has been on your active roster before, Atlanta brought him into the league...

He isn't new, we just improved him a little; also, he isn't yours until Tuesday passes. I will give you a little leniency since its the Falcons way to count eggs before they hatch.

2012.. Unde-frick!

lee909 04-04-2014 08:25 AM

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I doubt we match the offer and dont really blame Bush for taking any offers. He isnt a kid anymore and needs to show he is a true starter and should get a multi year deal. He showed plenty of flashes but he was the third safety on tbe roster in snap counts and would likely have been 4th had Harper not missed time. Id love to have him as a third choice safety and like his skill set but he can be replaced by a vet like Bailey or a rookie in the 3-5 rounds if the teams needs depth.

lee909 04-04-2014 08:26 AM

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The Falcons sure did lay a few eggs last year.

canucksaint 04-04-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 586854)
I don't think Hicks ever actually played for the CFL. I think he got drafted by a Canadian team but I don't think he played.

As noted prior, Hicks didn't play in the CFL, but Tom Johnson did. While he wasn't a superstar, he was a good enough rotational player. Also keep in mind that Seattle's CB Brandon Browner spent 4 years up in the CFL Brandon Browner | Roster | CFL.ca | Official Site of the Canadian Football League

RaginCajun83 04-04-2014 09:24 AM

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I loved the hit he put on Harvin in the playoffs and his production all season, it would suck to loose him to the Falcons but it wouldn't be the end of the world. RR would find someone else who's strength is the 3rd safety, lets just wait until Tuesday to see what happens, in Loomis I trust

Danno 04-04-2014 09:37 AM

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I wonder how much of Ryans 3-safety sets were driven by the fact that we just didn't have a capable 3rd CB to fill that role.

3rd safety is probably just the same as having a big nickelback.

TheOak 04-04-2014 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 586866)
I wonder how much of Ryans 3-safety sets were driven by the fact that we just didn't have a capable 3rd CB to fill that role.

3rd safety is probably just the same as having a big nickelback.

Most of the greatest creations were out of necessity.:saintsfan:

saintfan 04-04-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 586839)
Thanks for our new Saftey Brees!

Well well well look who "rose up" from last year's (typical) failclown meltdown! How long were you in the hospital after jumping off that bridge?
:lolup:


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|Mitch| 04-04-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 586875)
Well well well look who "rose up" from last year's (typical) failclown meltdown! How long were you in the hospital after jumping off that bridge?
:lolup:


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Don't be too hard on Caddieman; just like last year and the year before and the one before that... This is their year! :rofl: :rolleyes:

Danno 04-04-2014 10:50 AM

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What's a saftey?

TheOak 04-04-2014 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 586878)
What's a saftey?

Not sure but here are some tips on how to do it online.
How to Shop Saftey Online

May have something to do with soldering. :p
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/...ldering-saftey

Cruize 04-04-2014 11:43 AM

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Great news for the Saints WR's and TE's!

Utah_Saint 04-04-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 586878)
What's a saftey?

Don't ask Caddi, he's a falcon fan. They don't know what a safety is. They thought Decoud was one for years.

I'm surprised he got all the letters, even if he didn't spell it right.

Sarik 04-04-2014 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 586854)
I don't think Hicks ever actually played for the CFL. I think he got drafted by a Canadian team but I don't think he played.

Yep regina

QBREES9 04-04-2014 12:13 PM

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I'm not sure of this one.

K Major 04-04-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 586892)
Don't ask Caddi, he's a falcon fan. They don't know what a safety is. They thought Decoud was one for years.

Not defending the dirty birds but Decoud isn't as bad as most suggest.

ScottF 04-04-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 586910)
Not defending the dirty birds but Decoud isn't as bad as most suggest.

true- and he isn't getting much attention and might be added cheaply

halloween 65 04-04-2014 01:03 PM

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Bush hit well but not a ball-hawk at FS, he looked to be more of a SS to me. Even with the signing of the new guy we still need a back-up at FS or SS. A 3 year contract was a surprize to see. I can't wait to see him on the field.

NoZone504 04-04-2014 01:25 PM

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Replaceable!

Utah_Saint 04-04-2014 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 586910)
Not defending the dirty birds but Decoud isn't as bad as most suggest.

I've never liked Decoud. I've always thought he was overrated. I'm sorry the falcons let him go.

But then I've never claimed to be unbiased. :)


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