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saintshrimp 04-06-2014 04:26 PM

Bears sign Brian De La Puente
 
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Bears announced an agreement with former Saints C Brian de la Puente on a 1-year deal.
Bears add veteran center Brian de la Puente

|Mitch| 04-06-2014 04:34 PM

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Good Luck to him, but like just about all Linemen we let walk; his performance will lack

Danno 04-06-2014 04:37 PM

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1 year deal? Looks like there was virtually no interest in his services. I have a feeling we'll be better off with Lelito.

Rugby Saint II 04-06-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 587227)
1 year deal? Looks like there was virtually no interest in his services. I have a feeling we'll be better off with Lelito.

This front office knows a thing or two. I'll bet you're right.

brees84 04-06-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 587227)
1 year deal? Looks like there was virtually no interest in his services. I have a feeling we'll be better off with Lelito.


Agree. And this:

"As explained by Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, de la Puente is expected to back up Roberto Garza in Chicago"

Jack Vegas 04-06-2014 04:50 PM

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Only to back up? Wow. He wasn't that bad....and Garza's not that good.

exile 04-06-2014 04:54 PM

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Lelito isn't the answer. Draft a center.

rezburna 04-06-2014 04:56 PM

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Says it all.

brees84 04-06-2014 05:01 PM

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vet minimum. $65,000 signing bonus and $100,000 base salary guaranteed.

TheOak 04-06-2014 05:02 PM

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Being a starting C is more than just blocking. He was a serviceable blocker, looked lost at times in the screen, and Drew was calling the line.


It's not just a Saints opinion. He is headed to his sixth team and isn't expected to start.

The o-line seems to puzzle some fans, they think DLP is a keeper and Grubs is horrible.

Garry42 04-06-2014 05:06 PM

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Best of luck to DLP, but he won't be hard to replace.

B_Dub_Saint 04-06-2014 05:07 PM

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I think we can find a good C in the 3rd round.

TwistedTiger 04-06-2014 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 587233)
Only to back up? Wow. He wasn't that bad....and Garza's not that good.

Yes, he was that bad!

B_Dub_Saint 04-06-2014 05:40 PM

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Anyone know how this affect's our cap space good or bad?

|Mitch| 04-06-2014 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 587246)
Anyone know how this affect's our cap space good or bad?

he was an unrestricted free agent, has no effect on our cap

jnormand 04-06-2014 05:58 PM

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Wow....he took a backup job. I didn't expect that. That means there was no interest at all from the Saints. I actually thought he might be drawing interest from someone. Regardless, we can get better at that position.

saintsfan1976 04-06-2014 06:30 PM

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See ya sucka!!

CheramieIII 04-06-2014 06:45 PM

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WELL, WELL 2nd round center after we get the best DE/olb on the board in the first

burningmetal 04-06-2014 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 587238)
Being a starting C is more than just blocking. He was a serviceable blocker, looked lost at times in the screen, and Drew was calling the line.


It's not just a Saints opinion. He is headed to his sixth team and isn't expected to start.

The o-line seems to puzzle some fans, they think DLP is a keeper and Grubs is horrible.

I've been in seemingly hundreds of disagreements with people about just that. So many people just don't get it. If they don't see a guy giving up 3 sacks a game, they assume he must be alright. I do think Grubbs can play better, but he's not horrible and I think a little help would do him some good.

Danno 04-06-2014 07:23 PM

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I believe the old saying "actions speak louder than words" applies to DLP quite well.

It's also proof that PFF grades can be misleading.

jeanpierre 04-06-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 587257)
I believe the old saying "actions speak louder than words" applies to DLP quite well.

It's also proof that PFF grades can be misleading.

You should post that on the comment section of PFF Offensive Line Grades and then ask them if they do a quality control review of their methods and formulae for grading...

Strief was re-signed for this single biggest reason - TRUST...

That includes Brees' trust in him, Payton's trust in him...

Look at nearly every offensive lineman that has played for the Saints under the Payton era...

Most, not all, have had to show a body of work with the Saints or at the pro level that they could be trusted once the battle was engaged...

Watch the Carolina and Seahawk games where Strief is horrible in the screen game, but he's trusted to protect Drew...

Posted this before - you haven't heard one bit of concern out of Coach Payton about Lelito taking over at Center as you did re: Left Tackle Charles Brown last season...

And with such an apparent glaring need, the Saints have gone out and added new signees that are...defensive backs?!?

Yes there's a fullback in there, but Strief being the only hole on the line re-signed...

Unless it's a ruse, I'm starting to realize the Saints Personnel Staff have decided to trust Tim Lelito to be the Saints new starting centre...

And maybe we should as well...

rezburna 04-06-2014 09:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 587257)
I believe the old saying "actions speak louder than words" applies to DLP quite well.

It's also proof that PFF grades can be misleading.

Now that the father of the boards has said it maybe people will believe it.

hagan714 04-06-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 587260)

Unless it's a ruse, I'm starting to realize the Saints Personnel Staff have decided to trust Tim Lelito to be the Saints new starting centre...

And maybe we should as well...


sorry if the saints start Lito it will just another of a long of cute stupid moves on the OL all over again.

i fear they have not learned their lesson. please show me i am wrong for Drew's sake.

Goodwin is still out there and he still rates as serviceable

NewDeal 04-06-2014 10:27 PM

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Good luck to DLP. We should be able to find a good C in the 3rd round if SP doesn't feel like Lelito can handle the job.

burningmetal 04-07-2014 03:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 587260)
You should post that on the comment section of PFF Offensive Line Grades and then ask them if they do a quality control review of their methods and formulae for grading...

Strief was re-signed for this single biggest reason - TRUST...

That includes Brees' trust in him, Payton's trust in him...

Look at nearly every offensive lineman that has played for the Saints under the Payton era...

Most, not all, have had to show a body of work with the Saints or at the pro level that they could be trusted once the battle was engaged...

Watch the Carolina and Seahawk games where Strief is horrible in the screen game, but he's trusted to protect Drew...

Posted this before - you haven't heard one bit of concern out of Coach Payton about Lelito taking over at Center as you did re: Left Tackle Charles Brown last season...

And with such an apparent glaring need, the Saints have gone out and added new signees that are...defensive backs?!?

Yes there's a fullback in there, but Strief being the only hole on the line re-signed...

Unless it's a ruse, I'm starting to realize the Saints Personnel Staff have decided to trust Tim Lelito to be the Saints new starting centre...

And maybe we should as well...

Or, there is this theory. They are looking to fill the hole at center with someone other than Lelito and simply haven't found him yet. Good starters don't grow on trees, and so if they stick with Lelito it may just be a case of him being only slightly better than DLP. It doesn't necessarily mean they trust him long term. I'm not even sure that we can prove how much the Saints trust Strief despite re-signing him. It took a while before they signed him. Again, finding a good or even decent starter at a price the Saints can afford is not easy.

They went after a player in Jairus Byrd who is a proven turnover machine. We haven't had that in a while, but the last time we did it proved greatly instrumental in winning a Super Bowl. With as much money as they paid Byrd, it's not hard to understand that we might have to sacrifice a few other positions. There is no perfect team.

halloween 65 04-07-2014 04:37 AM

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I'm thinking Payton all ready knows who he is looking at, at Center, if I were a betting man, which I' m not, he has probably decided with not keeping DLP. Now my personal choice at Center lies in the draft, now wheather me and Payton are on the same page or not remains to be seen but if I was to pick and keep in mind I play with house money would be Marcus Martin-C- USC. Every now and then USC has some pretty good linemen.

TheOak 04-07-2014 05:40 AM

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There are three possibilities here.

1. To say Lelito can or can't play C is completely unfounded. We do not know either way. One can only surmise that if a serviceable C was allowed to walk at vet minimum the people that should know, do. Payton and Loomis have never been known for letting puzzle pieces walk for minimum.

2. We are going after a C very early, only way to remotely know you're getting a starter.

3. We as fans are overvaluing the C position.


Only 1/3 of an offensive linemen's job is protecting the QB.

Offensive Linemen and Catcher, I've played both and they are the most misunderstood positions in their respective sports.

If you want to understand o-line play watch hips, hands, and feet.


There is a reason PT is very good at the screen. It's called the o-line.

SaintsBro 04-07-2014 06:45 AM

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Sounds more to me like a tremendous lack of self confidence by Aaron Kromer, more than anything else. Is he really telegraphing that he can't succeed in Chicago, without the same players he had in New Orleans?

TheOak 04-07-2014 09:25 AM

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This is how PPF graded out DLP.

Overall Score - 4 16th in the NFL - serviceable mid pack
Pass Blocking - 2.7 12th in the NFL with 3 hits, 3 Sacks, 3 Hurries
Screen blocking - 1.5 surprisingly 6th in the NFL
Run Blocking - (-3.7) 23rd in the NFL.. Fairly poor
Penalties - 4 21st in the NFL

Papa Voodoo 04-07-2014 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 587255)
I've been in seemingly hundreds of disagreements with people about just that. So many people just don't get it. If they don't see a guy giving up 3 sacks a game, they assume he must be alright. I do think Grubbs can play better, but he's not horrible and I think a little help would do him some good.

Grubbs had palyers on both sides of him that are no longer on the team.

joker-saint 04-07-2014 09:58 AM

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The team needed somebody who could run block up the middle. How many ssuccessful runs up the middle did you see last year? Guarantee you will see a lot more with DP out. He was decent on the drop back coverage, but when the team needed yards up the middle he was next to non existent.

Danno 04-07-2014 10:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 587255)
I've been in seemingly hundreds of disagreements with people about just that. So many people just don't get it. If they don't see a guy giving up 3 sacks a game, they assume he must be alright. I do think Grubbs can play better, but he's not horrible and I think a little help would do him some good.


And conversely if they see a player get burned 2 or 3 times a year in coverage, he must be a total liability and will be exposed all game every game.;)

saintfan 04-07-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 587272)
Now that the father of the boards has said it maybe people will believe it.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...CnZMtpXBTJMoEb

FinSaint 04-07-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 587323)
The team needed somebody who could run block up the middle. How many ssuccessful runs up the middle did you see last year? Guarantee you will see a lot more with DP out. He was decent on the drop back coverage, but when the team needed yards up the middle he was next to non existent.


To be fair, Collins blew quite a few blocks in those "up-the-gut" situations, which I guess is why he's also no longer with the team.

Danno 04-07-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 587356)
To be fair, Collins blew quite a few blocks in those "up-the-gut" situations, which I guess is why he's also no longer with the team.

I'm amazed at how popular players get a pass for bad play, yet unpopular players get hammered for ones they had nothing to do with.

I was never a big Jed Collins fan but a lot of people kept saying how awesome he was. He was no Heath Evans.

When your RB is surrounded by 3 defenders two yards behind the LOS on 3rd and 1, someone ain't doing their damn job.

|Mitch| 04-07-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 587358)
I was never a big Jed Collins fan but a lot of people kept saying how awesome he was. He was no Heath Evans.

And scary to think, but he wasn't the receiving threat that Mike Karney was :shock:

Erik Lorig seems to be pretty balanced

Cruize 04-07-2014 06:01 PM

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DLP is solid. Durable. Wish him the best of luck. The Saints can't pay everybody. I would have spent the money on him instead of Bush though. Starter vs. backup. Now center is a hole they have to fill along with depth across the whole OLine.

QBREES9 04-07-2014 10:06 PM

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Thanks Brian, good luck with your new team.


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