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WhoDat!656 04-11-2014 07:32 PM

Living in the now proven to be sound strategy for New Orleans Saints
 
"I'll tell you what's good about Mickey, fellas. A lot of times we don't think about he's a CPA, an accountant," an upbeat Benson said at the NFL owners meetings in Orlando, Fla. "So when he first came into this thing, it wasn't all that important. But he knows the numbers.

"He knows how to add: Two and two is four. Some people don't know that."


Living in the now proven to be sound strategy for New Orleans Saints | Larry Holder | NOLA.com

foreverfan 04-11-2014 09:46 PM

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Excel is a wonderful program.

Crusader 04-12-2014 04:22 AM

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I don't Think this company's name is a coincident: Loomis.com | English | Loomis

dizzle88 04-12-2014 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 588338)

"He knows how to add: Two and two is four. Some people don't know that"

damn, thats where I've been going wrong all these years!! If only I knew that maths sum I'd be a GM in the NFL!

hagan714 04-12-2014 07:17 AM

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now we need a Center. lets get it done.

ScottF 04-12-2014 09:57 AM

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Knowing 2 + 2 = 4 isn't what makes Loomis elite
Knowing that 2 + 2 equals 4 this year, and 3 next year, is

it's the old accounting joke:
How much is 2 +2?
How much do you want it to be?

Utah_Saint 04-12-2014 10:39 AM

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To me, what makes Loomis great, along with his cap magic, is that he doesn't settle for just good players.

For example, we needed help in the secondary, Loomis went out and got the best safety on the market. Not the 4th or 5th best available, the best.
Two years ago, we needed a middle linebacker, he got one of the best in the league, we needed a guard, got the best one not named Nicks, the year before that we needed a running back and he went out and got Sproles. We keep reading every year that the Saints are in cap h***, well if this is cap h***, keep it coming.

It's fun to be a Saints fan.

MatthewT 04-12-2014 11:26 AM

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Loomis is going to keep pushing the cap until Brees is gone. Then and only then will he consider purging the roster and rebuild the team.

Jamessr 04-12-2014 12:02 PM

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I don't think his mindset is to ever "rebuild"
He's going to make changes, trades and drafts that will always keep us competitive.

Danno 04-12-2014 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 588390)
Loomis is going to keep pushing the cap until Brees is gone. Then and only then will he consider purging the roster and rebuild the team.


I think we purge yearly. Just look at all the vets we released this year.

That may be the norm now.

Utah_Saint 04-12-2014 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 588398)
I think we purge yearly. Just look at all the vets we released this year.

That may be the norm now.

That's one way to keep pushing the cap each year.

$ = must equal value.

Even if you're doing well at your position, if you're not performing at a level that justifies your salary, you get released (or traded in Sproles case). That maximizes the talent under the cap.

Sproles and Moore are examples of performing well, but not well enough to justify the compensation based on market value.

Bunkley's salary was recently adjusted to reflect his market value base on his performance.

This is the reason I would like to see the Saints take an inside linebacker in the first or second round of the draft. Both Lofton and Hawthorne are being paid more than what their performance justifies. This season both need to prove they are worth the money they're making. If one or both still underperform, having a talented ILB waiting on the sidelines would give the Saints leverage in negotiating a new salary for both of them.

Danno 04-12-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 588399)
That's one way to keep pushing the cap each year.

$ = must equal value.

Even if you're doing well at your position, if you're not performing at a level that justifies your salary, you get released (or traded in Sproles case). That maximizes the talent under the cap.

Sproles and Moore are examples of performing well, but not well enough to justify the compensation based on market value.

Bunkley's salary was recently adjusted to reflect his market value base on his performance.

This is the reason I would like to see the Saints take an inside linebacker in the first or second round of the draft. Both Lofton and Hawthorne are being paid more than what their performance justifies. This season both need to prove they are worth the money they're making. If one or both still underperform, having a talented ILB waiting on the sidelines would give the Saints leverage in negotiating a new salary for both of them.

If CJ Mosley is there at 27, I'd sprint to the podium knocking over any and all men women and children in my way.

1. CJ Mosley ILB/OLB Alabama
2. Donte Moncrief WR Ole Miss
3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste CB Nebraska

Oh my, no need to watch the rest of the draft, we'd just draft a few small school guys I never heard of.

hagan714 04-12-2014 04:06 PM

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It all comes full circle in 2017. That will be the the beginning of the end :messedup:
3 years and counting. lets go get us some rings baby.:bng:

2017 FA $2016 cap hit
Drew Brees QB UFA NO TBD 35 $27,400,000
Marques Colston WR UFA NO TBD 30 $10,500,000
Ben Grubbs G UFA NO TBD 30 $10,300,000
Jahri Evans G UFA NO TBD 30 $10,200,000
Brodrick Bunkley DT UFA NO TBD 30 $6,112,500
David Hawthorne ILB, LB UFA NO TBD 28 $5,510,000
Kenny Vaccaro S UFA NO TBD 23 $2,998,772
Pierre Thomas RB UFA NO TBD 29 $2,765,000

pumpkindriver 04-12-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 588402)
If CJ Mosley is there at 27, I'd sprint to the podium knocking over any and all men women and children in my way.

1. CJ Mosley ILB/OLB Alabama
2. Donte Moncrief WR Ole Miss
3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste CB Nebraska

Oh my, no need to watch the rest of the draft, we'd just draft a few small school guys I never heard of.

I don't know about #1 or #3 on your list but I sure would love to see Moncrief in a Saint's uniform.

Rugby Saint II 04-18-2014 05:21 PM

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So, the salary cap is like a debit card? You can't spend what you don't have. Unless you are smart like Mickey Loomis and borrow money from the future to pay for now. It's beautiful. Loomis uses it more as a credit card somehow.......I don't know how. I'm not an accountant.

Danno 04-18-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 589083)
So, the salary cap is like a debit card? You can't spend what you don't have. Unless you are smart like Mickey Loomis and borrow money from the future to pay for now. It's beautiful. Loomis uses it more as a credit card somehow.......I don't know how. I'm not an accountant.

Well just because we shove salary into future years doesn't mean we'll actually pay it.

We can cut, re-re-structure, or keep. It simply kicks the decision down the street.


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