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Conversion From Man to Zone Blocking Benefits Mark Ingram, Saints Offense
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So, what exactly is a ZBS? It’s actually exactly what it sounds like. Think defensive coverages. Where man (or "power") blocking is simply finding your assignment and taking him out of the play, a ZBS calls on its offensive linemen to cover an area and eliminate players coming into that area. The ZBS slightly abandons size and strength in lieu of quickness and lateral movement. There is more technique and deception involved in a ZBS. For starters, double teams are actually favorable in ZBS. The backside defensive end (or the "jack" in most 3-4 schemes) is left to run free into the backfield, while the line slides towards the side they’re rushing. A player may also perform a "reach block" in which he steps 45 degrees at the snap before attempting to step inside of a defender’s leg and engaging him. This is also called a "shield block," since it eliminates a defender’s ability to read the play. Ingram, of course, hails from Alabama, who famously run the best ZBS in the country. Other running backs out of ‘Bama include Eddie Lacy of Green Bay and, infamously, Trent Richardson, drafted in the first round by Cleveland before being traded for a first round pick to Indianapolis. Green Bay runs a ZBS, Cleveland and Indianapolis don’t. The comparative success of Lacy and Richardson should speak for itself in terms of which works better for Alabama products. To know if it’s man or zone blocking at the snap, watch the first step. If their hips immediately open to the strong side, it will be ZBS. If their first step is down the field to engage someone, it’s man to man. Asking a running back to switch to running in a man scheme from a zone one is like asking Rob Ryan to coach the offense for a season. It requires an entirely different skill set for an RB to run through a line that is creating holes through physicality rather than through coordination. This is where Ingram suffered. It’s admirable that Payton has taken such large strides to benefit his player’s strengths, especially since the transition from man blocking to zone is relatively easy for an offensive lineman. Rest of a really really good article from CanalStreetChronicles... Conversion From Man to Zone Blocking Benefits Mark Ingram, New Orleans Saints Offense - Canal Street Chronicles |
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I thought that I read on here that we abandoned the ZBS at some point in the season and run game got better.
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I'm curious to know which Centers in the draft come from ZBS schemes? |
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Ingram has his issue but the pale in comparison to the system. always said it was more the system to blame than the player.
plus if he could catch the ball better it would help out. thats my #1 knock on him besides the injury bug. Ingram is in and 8 in the box and run blitz is the defensive call. |
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Is is, did it benefit Drew? I'm not convinced on that part.
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So Alabama-alum running backs are only productive in zone blocking schemes?!?
What happened when the Alabama-alum running back went from Cleveland to Indy?!? if they're similar systems, why did he struggle to transition/produce in Indy?!? |
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The only RB from Bama that went to a ZBS was Eddie Lacy, who has looked very good. In fact, I would have guessed the worst of the Bama 3 would have been Lacy, then Ingram with Richardson being the cream of the crop. I got it exactly backwards, so far. |
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Zone can also be fantastic to use for play action and sprint out passes and bootleg because you can get the whole Defence flowing the wrong way. |
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I don't care what system you use...
IF YOU DON'T EXECUTE - YOU WON'T SUCCEED. |
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I didn't buy the line last week and I still don't. The authors reasoning behind the Saints switching to a ZBS because of Ingram doesn't hold water.
The switch happened in a year we got a new line coach..... Not in the year we picked up Ingram. I don't see Sean Payton changing how we block as a whole for the RB with the second most carries by a long shot. All the RBs ran better at the end of the season. A hole between G&T is a hole, a RB doesn't care how it was made. The articles authors logic is a reach that completely ignores a lot of issues that make his argument invalid. |
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And like you said, all of our RB's struggled at first, or I should say all of our linemen struggled at first, but the O-line improvement toward the end of the season was obvious. Good read, weak correlation. |
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I loved the breakdown of the ZBS, he did do a great job on that. At the beginning of the year our RBs were getting tackled 1-2 yards behind the Line of scrimmage, whether that was the lines fault or the RBs fault it was consistent between our running plays. After the BYE week things started clicking for either the o-line or RBs and we ran better the last 1/2 of the season. One of the glaring items that shines a light on the lack of correlation is that if a ZBS makes Ingram run better he should have ran better than everyone else early in the season. Which he didn't. Any RB will tell you, if a 2 foot hole is made for him to run through, whether the T/G both crisscrossed or they both blocked forward down field... A hole is a hole. I feel like in rambling now lol so I'll stop. I'm on some heavy duty pain killers. I think the correlations between ZBS, Alabama players, and NFL is somewhat coincidence. Those Bama players are running behind different o-lines and facing different opponents so it's not really an apples to apples comparison. |
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