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Saintaintso 04-27-2014 09:43 PM

Lions shopping Suh
 
Hate him as an opponent would literally make me tear with Joy to see he and Jordan and Hicks

You never know how 1st rounders are going to turn out ... If gladly give up ours for him . We could use a corner , but exceptional pressure makes a 5th rounder the best corner In all of football why not ? Bunkleys time is nearing an end with the saints

hagan714 04-27-2014 09:57 PM

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wonder what the price is? i would take him in a heart beat. headaches and all. talk about the missing link in our pass rush.....day dreaming of him added to our DT rotation

|Mitch| 04-27-2014 10:08 PM

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I could only imagine the size microscope our defense would be under with Suh on it... We'd get called for everything and opponents would always have the benefit

jeanpierre 04-27-2014 10:15 PM

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Not Neaux, but **** Neaux....

TheOak 04-27-2014 10:20 PM

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He averages 12.7m/year and is a free agent in 2015.

rezburna 04-27-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 590017)
He averages 12.7m/year and is a free agent in 2015.

Only if he was cheaper.

Utah_Saint 04-27-2014 10:46 PM

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I don't like the guy. Hope he goes to the AFC.

saintfan 04-27-2014 10:51 PM

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Everything else aside...and there is plenty of that...He would cost too much.

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rezburna 04-27-2014 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 590023)
Everything else aside...and there is plenty of that...He would cost too much.

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I don't think he's a problem at all. 49 tackles and 5.5 sacks from a DT is ridiculous. He had 10 sacks as rookie. Dude is ridiculous. He has no off the field issues. His only "problem" is he's overly physical. Some call him dirty. I call him productive. But yeah, too much money for the Saints. If he was making like $8 million though....

lee909 04-27-2014 11:53 PM

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I wouldn't want him even at $8ml. I dont want players that choose to miss voluntary workouts.The next step is missing camp days and paying fines etc. Its a distraction and doesn't help team morale. Id rather have team players that want to be around the other players and facility.

Saintaintso 04-27-2014 11:53 PM

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I'd bet the texans are going to trade for him ( next years 1st ) and draft manziel anyway ... He aside watt would be the most dominant front of all time , I care what nobody says about that

Crusader 04-28-2014 01:58 AM

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I'd love to have him but we couldn't afford him, Remember we will have to pay Jordan soon too.

jnormand 04-28-2014 01:59 AM

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The guy is a douchenozzle. I agree he's good, but I'd rather not sign players who routinely get fined for dick stomping people and being ignorant. No thanks. Too expensive and too much of a distraction.

And before everyone jumps my case...yes I agree he's damn good. But I don't have any respect for him.

WhoDat!656 04-28-2014 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 590032)
I'd love to have him but we couldn't afford him, Remember we will have to pay Jordan soon too.

As well as Graham

SloMotion 04-28-2014 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 590011)
wonder what the price is? i would take him in a heart beat. headaches and all. talk about the missing link in our pass rush.....day dreaming of him added to our DT rotation

It's just a smokescreen on the part of the Lions front office as they attempt to navigate their way through the lose-lose situation they've gotten themselves into with Suh's contract. They can't afford to franchise him & trading him will cost them $19mil vs the cap ... any team signing him has to set aside a minimum $12.7mil in cap space for him, there's only about 12-14 teams that can do that & he's also a free agent in 2015 ... it's just about ugly any way you look at for any team that wants him, including Detroit, :neutral: ... not too mention he really doesn't perform up to his salary/reputation, seriously ... the Lions defense was on the field for an average of 60 plays-per-game in 2013 and N-drama-kong made or assisted in less than 4 plays per game ... that's basically 6% of plays ... not a whole heckuva' lot for a guy who's getting paid over $12mil-a-yr & supposed to be some kind of stud, :rolleyes: ... and he only gets double-teamed 1-in-every-4 plays, or about 25% of the plays he's out there for, not the "every play" some would have you believe.

When they call him "overrated", they are 100% correct ... Suh is a myth, a brand, a "legend-in-his-own-mind" type of player. He's not happy in Detroit, never has been and will not play to his potential until he leaves the Lions. Until then, he's just marking time, playing the system & making as much money as he can ... bet. I called him out on this his 2nd year in the NFL and the Lion slappies 'bout had a fit, :lol: ... you should see 'em now all having to fall in line and begrudgingly agree with me, it's priceless, :rofl:.

I'm sure he'll eventually move on & become the star people try to hype him up to be, but he's really just a high-maintenance, prima-donna biotch in the honolulu blue & silver that basically goes out there every Sunday and excels at little more than gap control, IMO, :D.

I'm honestly tired of the whole situation/drama with the guy, :rolleyes:.

WhoDat!656 04-28-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 590024)
I don't think he's a problem at all. 49 tackles and 5.5 sacks from a DT is ridiculous. He had 10 sacks as rookie. Dude is ridiculous. He has no off the field issues. His only "problem" is he's overly physical. Some call him dirty. I call him productive. But yeah, too much money for the Saints. If he was making like $8 million though....

He hasn't gotten into the type of trouble a lot of other players have, but he does have a run-in with the law.

Ndamukong Suh | ArrestNation.com - The Sports Arrests Database

skymike 04-28-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 590040)
It's just a smokescreen on the part of the Lions front office ... N-drama-kong made or assisted in less than 4 plays per game ...
I'm honestly tired of the whole situation/drama with the guy, :rolleyes:.

"N-drama-kong" HAHAHAHAHAHA...

Hey, Slo-Mo, are you coming to MudBugs V?

ClintSaints 04-28-2014 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 590024)
I don't think he's a problem at all. 49 tackles and 5.5 sacks from a DT is ridiculous. He had 10 sacks as rookie. Dude is ridiculous. He has no off the field issues. His only "problem" is he's overly physical. Some call him dirty. I call him productive. But yeah, too much money for the Saints. If he was making like $8 million though....

No off the field issues except driving recklessly and getting other people injured. LOL.

SloMotion 04-29-2014 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 590085)
He hasn't gotten into the type of trouble a lot of other players have, but he does have a run-in with the law.

Ndamukong Suh | ArrestNation.com - The Sports Arrests Database

Yeah, :rolleyes: ... he's a real "choirboy", :lol: ... that's the only one the national media reported ... he was also involved in a little incident on the Southfield Freeway on his way to work where he crossed multiple lanes to get to an exit, caused an accident and fled behind the gates of the Lions training facility to avoid responsibility ... oh, and then there's the lawsuit he just lost where he was withholding security deposits from tenants, not too mention the constant flow of stupid comments from his sister ... yeah, the guy's a real "saint" off the field, :rolleyes: ... and let's just cherry pick stats from multiple seasons to support our case, ie 49 tackles, 5.5 sacks ... what season was that? For 2013 he had 36 tackles, 12 assists, 1 safety, 5.5 sacks (or less than 4 plays per game, and that was actually up from the two previous seasons) and none of them were important, game-changers, made a difference or came at crucial times during a game ... sorry fellas, but I just don't see the point in worshipping at the altar of Suh ... maybe I hold my heroes to a higher standard, IDK, but this guy has really only had two outstanding seasons, his senior year at Nebraska & his rookie season with the Lions ... pretty poor showing for all the hype, IMO.

I can understand why fans are infatuated with him, but upon further review, he's just an average defensive tackle with an extraordinary image/persona/contract, none of which he backs up with his play on the field, <shrug>. It is what it is ... the prosecution rests, :lol:.

papz 04-29-2014 06:42 AM

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Yea so there's this John Jenkins guy, that's a 350+ pound behemoth, that cost pennies on the dollar, and looks to be pretty damn good. We should go get him.

Oh wait...

SloMotion 04-29-2014 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 590119)
... and let's just cherry pick stats from multiple seasons to support our case, ie 49 tackles, 5.5 sacks ... what season was that? For 2013 he had 36 tackles, 12 assists, 1 safety, 5.5 sacks (or less than 4 plays per game, and that was actually up from the two previous seasons) and none of them were important, game-changers, made a difference or came at crucial times during a game ...

Oh, never mind, :rolleyes: ... I just saw his stats on Wikipedia and he's listed as having 49 combined tackles, :rofl: ... and while we're busy referencing Wikipedia, let's not overlook what a stud he was in high school ... 65 tackles, 10 sacks & four fumble recoveries because we all know how important previous stats/performance are in the "what have you done for me lately" NFL, :rolleyes: ... sorry guys, I've just grown tired of this debate over the past few seasons, :neutral:.

Jamessr 04-29-2014 08:30 AM

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"IF" Suh was to somehow become a Saint...
Roger Goodell's @ss would tighten so much he'd sh*t diamonds.

RajunCajun23 04-29-2014 09:13 AM

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I would rather put money in CBs or WRs not him. John Jenkins looks like he will be solid and with Jordan and Hicks all he has to do is plug gaps. He's a big boy and his second year in the NFL will show he is the right guy for the right price.

dizzle88 04-29-2014 09:23 AM

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Suh is a terrific player but the last thing we would need is him stamping on somebody (which he's already done like 3 times) and raising all the bounty gate questions once again

pass

Seer1 04-29-2014 09:42 AM

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I don't know that we'd have to worry about that b********* thing. He seems pretty indiscriminate as to who he stomps on.

SmashMouth 04-29-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 590126)
Oh, never mind, :rolleyes: ... I just saw his stats on Wikipedia and he's listed as having 49 combined tackles, :rofl: ... and while we're busy referencing Wikipedia, let's not overlook what a stud he was in high school ... 65 tackles, 10 sacks & four fumble recoveries because we all know how important previous stats/performance are in the "what have you done for me lately" NFL, :rolleyes: ... sorry guys, I've just grown tired of this debate over the past few seasons, :neutral:.

Dude..... he is seriously overpaid then... seriously.

Seer1 04-29-2014 09:37 PM

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Only saw a couple of Detroit games, but He was owned by the OL in both games I watched.

SloMotion 04-30-2014 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 590226)
Only saw a couple of Detroit games, but He was owned by the OL in both games I watched.

That's what I'm talking about ... I missed out on a lot of good football focusing on N-drama-kong for a season & a half in order to prove/dispel the "double-teamed on every play" myth ... he's "too fast" & it makes him ineffective vs the run, teams just wham-block him, he tends to get too tall in his stance which makes it easier for offensive lineman to stand him up & handle him mano-e-mano and his only real strength is controlling/getting in to pass rushing gaps and/or pursuing the play (when he chooses to, :rolleyes:), which is what the Lions got him for, but at what cost? He'd be an awesome D/T at $6-$8mil, just not $12.7 ... and he only gets doubled-teamed 1-in-4 plays ... teams don't have to double-team him, the Lions line him up in the same spot on every play, every game, so there's no need for fancy blocking schemes to neutralize the big lug, ;).

I just think there'd be more interest in signing him by the other NFL teams if he was all that he was cracked up/reputed to be ... but he's not, :).

Marlboro Man 04-30-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 590024)
I don't think he's a problem at all. 49 tackles and 5.5 sacks from a DT is ridiculous. He had 10 sacks as rookie. Dude is ridiculous. He has no off the field issues. His only "problem" is he's overly physical. Some call him dirty. I call him productive. But yeah, too much money for the Saints. If he was making like $8 million though....

Seattle's kinda player for sure.

rezburna 04-30-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlboro Man (Post 590272)
Seattle's kinda player for sure.

Seattle just won the ship. We could use some of their type of players.

Rugby Saint II 05-01-2014 12:00 PM

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If SloMo says no thank you.............then no thank you!

SloMotion 05-02-2014 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 590418)
If SloMo says no thank you.............then no thank you!

Yeah, you just gotta' go in with your eyes (and your wallet) open with this guy ... he's not everything he's cracked up to be, :).


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