Scout: Johnny Manziel is more talented than Drew Brees
 

One NFL scout believes Johnny Manziel is more talented than Drew Brees, according to Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

“He’s more talented than the guy at New Orleans (Drew Brees),” one scout said, per McGinn. “His arm’s not as strong as (Michael) Vick’s but he’s farther along in the passing game. He’s not very far along, but farther than Vick was. He’s better than (Doug) Flutie, faster and better than (Russell) Wilson. He reminds me a little bit of (Joe) Montana. Fluid, and even though off-balance he can get the ball out. Has big hands (9 7/8 inches) for a little guy. To me, the only thing holding him back is the off-the-field and if he’s committed to coming in on Mondays and Tuesdays.”

Manziel could be more talented than Brees, but talent only takes you so far in the NFL.

Scout: Johnny Manziel is more talented than Drew Brees

Re: Scout: Johnny Manziel is more talented than Drew Brees
 

Lets just compare his and Brees records at the end of their respected careers :rolleyes:

Re: Scout: Johnny Manziel is more talented than Drew Brees
 

"One NFL scout believes Johnny Manziel is more talented than Drew Brees, according to Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel."

Yes Jamarcus Russell was more talented too.

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I know it's the off season but why are we torturing our selves with crap like this?

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Pages need witten, websites need hits and writers need to get there name out there, hence pieces written that contain no information and views posted thst the writers do not even believe themselves.

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Ick. I wish the draft would get here so we can all read something worth a ****. This off season has to be one of the longest I can remember. This sucks....just like this article.

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A lot of QBs has more talent than Brees but most of them ride the pine. Its Brees mind that sets him apart.

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;) I understand why they are written... I don't post each and every article just because it has Drew Brees name in it.

As far as the article, it fails to define talent and only covers speed, arm strength, and hand size. It's hardly an article and more of a quote from an unnamed scout.

The word "better", is not tangible.

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Agree with all. Enough of this this.
Can't we all just focus on PT being a vegetarian for a month?

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Brees will finish is career pushing 70K yards. Manzel will be lucky to push 20K.

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talk to me in ten years and johnny footballs is up for the hall then we can talk

Re: Scout: Johnny Manziel is more talented than Drew Brees
 

meh... only time will tell.
Who know he may be the best one day.

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I don't like the draft being pushed back into May... All of the Manziel and Clowney speculation has made me hate 2 young men that I have no reason to hate. Boredom from it being pushed back and piss-poor "journalism" is ruining this draft for me.

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Re: Scout: Johnny Manziel is more talented than Drew Brees
 

Another anonymous scout said Manziel will be this year's Tebow.

Who's right?

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I'm really starting to think Mark Cuban was right. This hog is almost ready to get slaughtered.

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This is a misconception in my humble opinion. Brees was awesome in high school and college. And as a young teenager he beat the last decent American tennis player in tennis. I can't remember his name now. Reddick I think. Anyway, how many times do u see a linebacker or safety unblocked running straight at Brees and in a flash he's moved 6 ft and released the ball untouched? He's very talented. He's just not tall. I bet he's good at basketball.

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Agreed. I just don't think he has the work ethic and drive along with the willingness to constantly get better being the fist one there and the last one off the field. He proved this when he was at the Manning camp.
Yea he was young, but he has pulled other stuff that makes me think of him as a baby who thinks higher of himself than he actually is.

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Question #1 how many Super Bowl Wins does Johnny Manziel have? NONE.

And may never have.

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"... talented"

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This has got a lot to do with Brees the last two years. If Brees cuts down on the interceptions then this criticism will stop. But not many people are aware of the fact that Brees does not find the open guy.

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You mean like 2013 when he only threw 12? In comparison 2009 he threw 11.

"Open receiver" is a subjective term. For Nick Toon to be open he must have 10 yards of free space, for Calvin Johnson or Andre' Johnson to be open they must have their helmet on.

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This just in! B.B. King is more talented than Drew Brees! Who'da thought?

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Maybe. The bigger question is "Does he trust in Spaggs?"

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You said yourself that Brees doesnt throw to players based on being open. The thing is when you look at the stats, his ints were mostly on the road and he threw more than 1 in half the games.

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It's not just ints, he didnt have good receivers last year(or better yet, he had aging ones and a rookie) and Graham was hobbled. He was also badly protected by the LT until week 17 so it really had an effect on him there as well. The thing is the media lives off the past of how great our o once was and instead of pointing out those situations, they put it all on Brees being 35 and his "arm strength is falling off" I can't say how many times I heard people on other forums(variety not team specific such as Hoopla) say that about his arm. I am just hoping all of those things are not an issue this year.

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Athleticism alone means nothing. We had a 400 lb guy who could do backflips but that translated into squat

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I do not care the article mentioned Brees.

Who cares?

Brees is not the best. There is no best. There are only those who made some records, broke some records, and played some some really outstanding games. Those who took their teams and careers to higher levels. Those who reached the top of their profession. Those who pushed their team and made awesome games and seasons fun and interesting for all NFL fans.
There is a Best List. Many are on the Best List.
Brees has reached that inn his career.

Lets take this article about JM another way.
He is the hot name going into the Draft 2014. Every morning on NFL Net, there must be at least three stories about him.
Makes you feel sort sorry for him really.
THE HYPE!!! Buyer Beware!!! When a player is so hyped, it is really a disadvantage. PrEsSuRe on him!!
This guy has not played one quarter. Who knows how he will turn out? Maybe he will be on The Best List.
He could phase out light candles on a 6yr.olds' birthday cake too.
Tebow who? He believed the hype about himself. Biggest mistake one can make. He even had an actress from the play, Rock of Ages, take down her FB pic of them taken after he saw the play because the costume she was in and such could damage his Christian image. LOL!!!!
RGIIIRGIIIRGIII...won first game of career in LA Superdome against N.O. Saints. It was suppose to be all up after that. He strted out with a bang!
Ummmm...what is that I hear .....crickets,crickets.....LOL!!!
It was all downhill for him after that. Now, he and TPTB of WR got rid of Shanahan....gave RGII more of what he wants needs and time will tell.
Don't hold your breathe.

Cammy "It is everyone elses' fault but mine" Newton? Average guy.

Tony Phony Romo Oh No. He is still hyped by the NFL every season for his average play. He is average. Just average. Tony Phony Romo Oh No is star OFF THE FIELD that is with his , what was it, baseball game he went to with Whitten and they sat right in JJ box or some box suite with Clinton, Bush, etc. Romo Oh No has always been very busy, visible, and record breaking OFF the field. Of course he attended White House Corres. Dinner celeb thingy this weekend.

QB's who sneaked in. Who were bottom of the barrel, last pickings, so-so. Going to be good 2nd string. Average.
Brady was way down on the list.
Doug Williams. He came in. Did his thing. Won the big one, a SB. Left. Exit stage left and went on with his life as a university coach.
Brees and his bummed shoulder. Maybe he has like bionics, like the Bionic Man had in it or something.
PManning had to take a few years to really get going. He just has not stopped going yet.

Next year, everybody might be saying what was his name...that guy from last year? Johnny Manns...Mantz, something or the other like that.

Re: Scout: Johnny Manziel is more talented than Drew Brees
 

That is not exactly what I said, you are throwing some loose interpretation in there as well.

What I have said a few times is that Drew inst a target of opportunity QB, he reads through route progressions and the receiver needs to be open to a certain degree in that route or close enough for Drew to throw him open.

He doesn't roll out right like Manziel and look to see who is open somewhere on the field. He stays in the pocket and reads the progression of the routes to determine which x he is going to hit, or for the quicker release passes he is throwing it to a mark on the field and the receiver better be there.

One of the A&M receivers recently stated that playing with Johnny wasn't very organized and his receivers never knew where he would be throwing from or who he would be throwing to consistently. Having a QB that can make plays is fantastic, having a QB that does it/tries to do it each and every down is very difficult to game plan around.

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I didnt read this, and only clicked on it to input this........ Who cares

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I heard that Meg Ryan was a better QB.

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Give him the gas face.

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People forget what made Drew special coming out of Purdue...He competed every down like it was his last and you could never count him out. Mike Sherman recruited players that had NFL potential and we're starting to see them come into the league... Let him play then judge..Because I bet no one saw,Drew doing what he's done when he came in.

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Contrary to what many believe here, I think that Manziel has a pretty high ceiling. He has a quality about him that you just can't put your finger on. That being said, comparing him to Drew Brees? Their playing styles aren't even remotely similar. Who are hiring these scouts? Sounds like an alternative career option.

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Right, Bill Cosby ( NOAH ) to God. RIGHT! Manziel or Brees. BRESS!