WR BIGGEST BUST RATE

TheOak · 05-07-2014, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by triman

First rd WR start only 39% of the time and have a high rate of failure . I would take a WR at #27 It is statistically significant that doing so is more of a gamble than any other position. 1st rd DT are second at 46%… A #1 WR is a critical need . Some time you need to rolll the dice. Just know the odds.

Provide sources please, from what I am reading your associating a WR that doesn't start his rookie season as a bust.

There is a huge difference between a "bust" and a player that starts his second season.

Ryan Leaf was a bust and started his rookie season.
Mark Ingram may have not fulfilled his 1st round status, or pulled a full load his rookie season.. or yet.... but he is far from a bust.

dizzle88 · 05-07-2014, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Provide sources please, from what I am reading your associating a WR that doesn't start his rookie season as a bust.

There is a huge difference between a "bust" and a player that starts his second season.

Ryan Leaf was a bust and started his rookie season.
Mark Ingram may have not fulfilled his 1st round status, or pulled a full load his rookie season.. or yet.... but he is far from a bust.

Robert meachem didn't start his rookie season but then tied for the team lead in TD's in 2009, Meachem may have not lived up to the first round hype but he is productive when called upon

pinch · 05-07-2014, 02:06 PM

Mark Ingram may have not fulfilled his 1st round status, or pulled a full load his rookie season.. or yet.... but he is far from a bust.

He didn't fulfill his 1st round status, but what about the fact that we gave up a 1st and a 2nd for him?

Danno · 05-07-2014, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by pinch

He didn't fulfill his 1st round status, but what about the fact that we gave up a 1st and a 2nd for him?

Thats on Loomis, not Ingram.

If Minnesota had given up 4 1st round picks for Adrian Peterson, one could say Adrian Peterson is a bust.

And by the way, post more Pinch.

TheOak · 05-07-2014, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by pinch

He didn't fulfill his 1st round status, but what about the fact that we gave up a 1st and a 2nd for him?

As Danno pointed out, that has everything to do with value and nothing to do with Ingram's performance in the NFL.

Let's flip it to a less controversial player. Would Colston be a better worse player if he had gone in a different round? No
It would however change the value of that pick.

A bust indicates drafting a player that can't play in the NFL. It's a complete waste.

05-07-2014, 02:06 PM	#3
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: WR BIGGEST BUST RATE Mark Ingram may have not fulfilled his 1st round status, or pulled a full load his rookie season.. or yet.... but he is far from a bust. He didn't fulfill his 1st round status, but what about the fact that we gave up a 1st and a 2nd for him?

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: WR BIGGEST BUST RATE Originally Posted by pinch He didn't fulfill his 1st round status, but what about the fact that we gave up a 1st and a 2nd for him? Thats on Loomis, not Ingram. If Minnesota had given up 4 1st round picks for Adrian Peterson, one could say Adrian Peterson is a bust. And by the way, post more Pinch.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: WR BIGGEST BUST RATE Originally Posted by pinch He didn't fulfill his 1st round status, but what about the fact that we gave up a 1st and a 2nd for him? As Danno pointed out, that has everything to do with value and nothing to do with Ingram's performance in the NFL. Let's flip it to a less controversial player. Would Colston be a better worse player if he had gone in a different round? No It would however change the value of that pick. A bust indicates drafting a player that can't play in the NFL. It's a complete waste.

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05-07-2014, 10:36 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: WR BIGGEST BUST RATE Originally Posted by triman First rd WR start only 39% of the time and have a high rate of failure . I would take a WR at #27 It is statistically significant that doing so is more of a gamble than any other position. 1st rd DT are second at 46%… A #1 WR is a critical need . Some time you need to rolll the dice. Just know the odds. Provide sources please, from what I am reading your associating a WR that doesn't start his rookie season as a bust. There is a huge difference between a "bust" and a player that starts his second season. Ryan Leaf was a bust and started his rookie season. Mark Ingram may have not fulfilled his 1st round status, or pulled a full load his rookie season.. or yet.... but he is far from a bust.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: WR BIGGEST BUST RATE Originally Posted by TheOak Provide sources please, from what I am reading your associating a WR that doesn't start his rookie season as a bust. There is a huge difference between a "bust" and a player that starts his second season. Ryan Leaf was a bust and started his rookie season. Mark Ingram may have not fulfilled his 1st round status, or pulled a full load his rookie season.. or yet.... but he is far from a bust. Robert meachem didn't start his rookie season but then tied for the team lead in TD's in 2009, Meachem may have not lived up to the first round hype but he is productive when called upon TheOak likes this.