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exile 05-09-2014 09:20 AM

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Wait... I just realized that Marqise Lee didn't go in the first round. That's a shocker.

Danno 05-09-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 591678)
Wait... I just realized that Marqise Lee didn't go in the first round. That's a shocker.

Thats who I thought Carolina was going to pick, I was so relieved when they picked Benjamin.

Pretty sure Lee won't have to wait long tonight.

papz 05-09-2014 09:32 AM

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If I'm Cleveland I'm salivating at the possibility of pairing Gordon with Lee. Gordon already demands double coverage and Lee can develop into that same type of player.

That would be just sick.

Danno 05-09-2014 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 591681)
If I'm Cleveland I'm salivating at the possibility of pairing Gordon with Lee. Gordon already demands double coverage and Lee can develop into that same type of player.

That would be just sick.

I hope so, I have a soft spot in my heart for Cleveland. They remind me so much of the Saints when we were the laughing stock of the entire league for the better part of 40 years.

They are the AFC-Saints.

papz 05-09-2014 09:45 AM

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With the way they're shaping up, I don't think it would be a bad idea for Cleveland to pick up McCarron or Murray later on in case Manziel bust... much like Washington did with RG3 and Cousins as an insurance policy. I think McCarron's game managing ability would fit well there. That said, Hoyer does fit the bill but McCarron would be intriguing there imo.

SmashMouth 05-09-2014 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 591678)
Wait... I just realized that Marqise Lee didn't go in the first round. That's a shocker.

Overrated perhaps?

TheOak 05-09-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 591665)
I think Cooks is a combination of DeSean Jackson/Percy Harvin/Tavon Austin without all of their issues.



I'm not sure about the Sproles comparison.


Durability. I was trying to keep it Saints .

TheOak 05-09-2014 12:42 PM

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Only thing is if/when that player gets hurt, by that rationale and it's legit, we've just lost two guys in one, oh well, part of the game and he's definitely a gamer...



Very special player though his size is of concern and with similar player on roster in Stills...



Have posted that am losing confidence in Brees armstrength ability to get the ball down field to receivers IN STRIDE so we'd be handicapping a new ability...



His height is a big concern for me; thinking Payton sees this rush to geaux to bigger corners and figures we'll geaux the other way so they can't keep up with our quicker, shifty receivers...



Problem is, refs are not going to throw ten (10) pass interferences calls in a game - see both @ Seattle games last season...



Welcome Cooksie, hoping you're ready for the Dome...


Feels like you may be over thinking it, listening to generic scouting, or perhaps not considering him as a part of a Sean Payton offense.

While your concerns are legit, they aren't anything new.

Sproles - Small multi role RB that handled returns.

Brees - Too short

Cooks - 5'10", Sproles 5'6" (71 receptions in 2013), Lance Moore 5'9", Doug Baldwin 5'10", Percy Harvin 5'11", Julien Edelman 5'10", Wes Welker 5'9"..... Case made?

Your not handicapping the new ability. If he can smoke a CB 30 yards down field, he can smoke a CB across the field. His start/stop ability with his burst should give him huge separation ability. More than once Drew hit Stills in stride last season.


Still is a solid player, Cooks is a play maker... I see a slight valuable difference.

Have you seen Sean Payton get his hands on an offensive weapon/play maker and do nothing with him yet? (One that didn't cause his own issues)

exile 05-09-2014 01:26 PM

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I just wish the media would talk about Johnny Manzeil a bit more. I mean, 23 hours of nothing but Johnny just isn't near enough.

papz 05-09-2014 05:47 PM

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Sources tell ESPN that Josh Gordon could face a season-long suspension following a second failed drug test, this time for marijuana.

The Browns can't even bask in their Johnny Manziel glory for 24 hours. Gordon, who was booted off Baylor's football team for failed drug tests, was suspended by the NFL for the first two games of last season after violating the league's substance abuse policy. A second violation can come with a 16-game ban. It would be a devastating blow to an offense that was previously trending up. Gordon was fantasy's No. 1 receiver last season, racking up a league-high 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns in 14 games. Cleveland only has Andrew Hawkins, Nate Burleson and Greg Little behind him. May 9 - 6:11 PM

Source: ESPN.com


Well there she blows.


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