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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by dueceloose Nxt round will be interesting Hope so. What time does it start....

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Old 05-08-2014, 10:30 PM   #1
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Re: OFFICIAL - FIRST ROUND NFL LIVE DRAFT THREAD

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Nxt round will be interesting
Hope so. What time does it start.
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Originally Posted by Marlboro Man View Post
Hope so. What time does it start.

6pm Central Time

Cooks is a combination of Sproles and Morgan. Let him grow on you, you'll love him.

We had the #4 defense and an offense that couldn't score when it needed to. This was the right pick.
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Cooks is a combination of Sproles and Morgan. Let him grow on you, you'll love him.

We had the #4 defense and an offense that couldn't score when it needed to. This was the right pick.

Only thing is if/when that player gets hurt, by that rationale and it's legit, we've just lost two guys in one, oh well, part of the game and he's definitely a gamer...

Very special player though his size is of concern and with similar player on roster in Stills...

Have posted that am losing confidence in Brees armstrength ability to get the ball down field to receivers IN STRIDE so we'd be handicapping a new ability...

His height is a big concern for me; thinking Payton sees this rush to geaux to bigger corners and figures we'll geaux the other way so they can't keep up with our quicker, shifty receivers...

Problem is, refs are not going to throw ten (10) pass interferences calls in a game - see both @ Seattle games last season...

Welcome Cooksie, hoping you're ready for the Dome...

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Very special player though his size is of concern and with similar player on roster in Stills...


His height is a big concern for me; thinking Payton sees this rush to geaux to bigger corners and figures we'll geaux the other way so they can't keep up with our quicker, shifty receivers...

Problem is, refs are not going to throw ten (10) pass interferences calls in a game - see both @ Seattle games last season...
I think this is exactly the Payton thinking, I felt it instantly last night like a shiver, the moment the Cooks pick sank in with me. The Saints looked SLOW and OLD on offense last year, in ALL of their bad games.

The way to BEAT SEATTLE is to be FAST, FASTER, and super dynamic and shifty -- they can't hold what they can't grab, they can't interfere with the empty air where a receiver was a split second ago, they can't swarm and blanket us, and contest the ball at both QB and receiver points (like Seattle did) if we're shifty. We can only slow these grab-happy, interfering defenses down, if they don't know where it's going or what's coming next....

This team could take the field right now yesterday without Cooks and be an 10 or 11 or 12 win team easy, at minimum....this guy will help the most against "better" opponents or deep playoff situations, or mark a philosophical return to the wide-open, anything-is-possible, "too many weapons" "who ya gonna stop" Sean Payton offense....

This pick makes TOTAL BRILLIANT SENSE if you look back at the specific "BAD" games that the Saints had last year, including the disappearing Jimmy Graham when the going got tough....this will even help with that. I'm stoked.

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Only thing is if/when that player gets hurt, by that rationale and it's legit, we've just lost two guys in one, oh well, part of the game and he's definitely a gamer...



Very special player though his size is of concern and with similar player on roster in Stills...



Have posted that am losing confidence in Brees armstrength ability to get the ball down field to receivers IN STRIDE so we'd be handicapping a new ability...



His height is a big concern for me; thinking Payton sees this rush to geaux to bigger corners and figures we'll geaux the other way so they can't keep up with our quicker, shifty receivers...



Problem is, refs are not going to throw ten (10) pass interferences calls in a game - see both @ Seattle games last season...



Welcome Cooksie, hoping you're ready for the Dome...

Feels like you may be over thinking it, listening to generic scouting, or perhaps not considering him as a part of a Sean Payton offense.

While your concerns are legit, they aren't anything new.

Sproles - Small multi role RB that handled returns.

Brees - Too short

Cooks - 5'10", Sproles 5'6" (71 receptions in 2013), Lance Moore 5'9", Doug Baldwin 5'10", Percy Harvin 5'11", Julien Edelman 5'10", Wes Welker 5'9"..... Case made?

Your not handicapping the new ability. If he can smoke a CB 30 yards down field, he can smoke a CB across the field. His start/stop ability with his burst should give him huge separation ability. More than once Drew hit Stills in stride last season.


Still is a solid player, Cooks is a play maker... I see a slight valuable difference.

Have you seen Sean Payton get his hands on an offensive weapon/play maker and do nothing with him yet? (One that didn't cause his own issues)
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
6pm Central Time

Cooks is a combination of Sproles and Morgan. Let him grow on you, you'll love him.

We had the #4 defense and an offense that couldn't score when it needed to. This was the right pick.
I think Cooks is a combination of DeSean Jackson/Percy Harvin/Tavon Austin without all of their issues.

I'm not sure about the Sproles comparison.
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I think Cooks is a combination of DeSean Jackson/Percy Harvin/Tavon Austin without all of their issues.



I'm not sure about the Sproles comparison.

Durability. I was trying to keep it Saints .
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Damn Saints play two receivers 6'5 (Evans, Benjamin) four times a year
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Damn Saints play two receivers 6'5 (Evans, Benjamin) four times a year
Id be more worried if they had accurate QBs
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Oh man I'm tired of listening to ray frickin lewis talk
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