New Orleans Saints continue molding secondary with Seattle blueprint | Larry Holder

hagan714 · 05-10-2014, 08:48 AM

See i disagree with all this seahawk stuff. if that were the case tackling and aggressive play would be higher requirements for this pick. have you seen the size of our SS and FS ????? drama catching headlines that are so far from the truth it is a joke

All this was is a reflection of the effect of taller wide WR are having not only in the NFL but in college. DB are just now starting to get trained up for the change. before you walk in tall and with good hands you went straight to offense. now the defenses are adjusting.

wait till the effect takes over high school ball big time then you will see this size of DB more common in the draft. give it 5 or so more years.

If this is the case Ahmad Dixon Baylor atop the defense wish list this morning.

just like Bucannon was a top of mine at the opening bell.

Danno · 05-10-2014, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

See i disagree with all this seahawk stuff. if that were the case tackling and aggressive play would be higher requirements for this pick. have you seen the size of our SS and FS ????? drama catching headlines that are so far from the truth it is a joke

All this was is a reflection of the effect of taller wide WR are having not only in the NFL but in college. DB are just now starting to get trained up for the change. before you walk in tall and with good hands you went straight to offense. now the defenses are adjusting.

wait till the effect takes over high school ball big time then you will see this size of DB more common in the draft. give it 5 or so more years.

If this is the case Ahmad Dixon Baylor atop the defense wish list this morning.

just like Bucannon was a top of mine at the opening bell.

Agreed, this has less to do with Seattle and more to do with our style of defense. Rob wants to play more press and naturally the bigger and longer your CB's are the easier it is (mostly). If we ran a cover-2 he'd probably not be the guy we want.

And if I had to guess, our division is now loaded with big tall WR's that will be hard to press with smaller DBs (not impossible tho).

He simply fits what we want to do.

Rugby Saint II · 05-10-2014, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Agreed, this has less to do with Seattle and more to do with our style of defense. Rob wants to play more press and naturally the bigger and longer your CB's are the easier it is (mostly). If we ran a cover-2 he'd probably not be the guy we want.

And if I had to guess, our division is now loaded with big tall WR's that will be hard to press with smaller DBs (not impossible tho).

He simply fits what we want to do.

Is he a good tackler? I haven't read that yet.

TheOak · 05-11-2014, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Is he a good tackler? I haven't read that yet.

I've read his open field tackling is inconsistent, technique comes and goes.
http://nfldraftgeek.com/stanleyjeanb...ingreport.html

That said being a previous wife receiver "should" translate to playing the ball very well instead of playing the receiver all the time.

Several Mock Drafts had him going in the first.

dizzle88 · 05-11-2014, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I've read his open field tackling is inconsistent, technique comes and goes.
Stanley Jean-Baptiste NFL Draft Scouting Report

That said being a previous wife receiver "should" translate to playing the ball very well instead of playing the receiver all the time.

Several Mock Drafts had him going in the first.

Wife receiver ey? Knew that woman wasn't loyal

TheOak · 05-11-2014, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Wife receiver ey? Knew that woman wasn't loyal

Damned auto-complete.! Lol

hagan714 · 05-11-2014, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Is he a good tackler? I haven't read that yet.

let just say it pretty good but needs work. you do not need to worry about him laying anyone out.

05-10-2014, 08:48 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints continue molding secondary with Seattle blueprint \| Larry Holder See i disagree with all this seahawk stuff. if that were the case tackling and aggressive play would be higher requirements for this pick. have you seen the size of our SS and FS ????? drama catching headlines that are so far from the truth it is a joke All this was is a reflection of the effect of taller wide WR are having not only in the NFL but in college. DB are just now starting to get trained up for the change. before you walk in tall and with good hands you went straight to offense. now the defenses are adjusting. wait till the effect takes over high school ball big time then you will see this size of DB more common in the draft. give it 5 or so more years. If this is the case Ahmad Dixon Baylor atop the defense wish list this morning. just like Bucannon was a top of mine at the opening bell. Danno and Tobias-Reiper like this.
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05-10-2014, 09:59 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: New Orleans Saints continue molding secondary with Seattle blueprint \| Larry Holder Originally Posted by hagan714 See i disagree with all this seahawk stuff. if that were the case tackling and aggressive play would be higher requirements for this pick. have you seen the size of our SS and FS ????? drama catching headlines that are so far from the truth it is a joke All this was is a reflection of the effect of taller wide WR are having not only in the NFL but in college. DB are just now starting to get trained up for the change. before you walk in tall and with good hands you went straight to offense. now the defenses are adjusting. wait till the effect takes over high school ball big time then you will see this size of DB more common in the draft. give it 5 or so more years. If this is the case Ahmad Dixon Baylor atop the defense wish list this morning. just like Bucannon was a top of mine at the opening bell. Agreed, this has less to do with Seattle and more to do with our style of defense. Rob wants to play more press and naturally the bigger and longer your CB's are the easier it is (mostly). If we ran a cover-2 he'd probably not be the guy we want. And if I had to guess, our division is now loaded with big tall WR's that will be hard to press with smaller DBs (not impossible tho). He simply fits what we want to do. Ashley and TheOak like this.

05-10-2014, 12:54 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,144	Re: New Orleans Saints continue molding secondary with Seattle blueprint \| Larry Holder Originally Posted by Danno Agreed, this has less to do with Seattle and more to do with our style of defense. Rob wants to play more press and naturally the bigger and longer your CB's are the easier it is (mostly). If we ran a cover-2 he'd probably not be the guy we want. And if I had to guess, our division is now loaded with big tall WR's that will be hard to press with smaller DBs (not impossible tho). He simply fits what we want to do. Is he a good tackler? I haven't read that yet. hagan714 likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: New Orleans Saints continue molding secondary with Seattle blueprint \| Larry Holder Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Is he a good tackler? I haven't read that yet. I've read his open field tackling is inconsistent, technique comes and goes. http://nfldraftgeek.com/stanleyjeanb...ingreport.html That said being a previous wife receiver "should" translate to playing the ball very well instead of playing the receiver all the time. Several Mock Drafts had him going in the first.

05-11-2014, 02:25 PM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: New Orleans Saints continue molding secondary with Seattle blueprint \| Larry Holder Originally Posted by TheOak I've read his open field tackling is inconsistent, technique comes and goes. Stanley Jean-Baptiste NFL Draft Scouting Report That said being a previous wife receiver "should" translate to playing the ball very well instead of playing the receiver all the time. Several Mock Drafts had him going in the first. Wife receiver ey? Knew that woman wasn't loyal TheOak likes this.

05-11-2014, 04:21 PM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: New Orleans Saints continue molding secondary with Seattle blueprint \| Larry Holder Originally Posted by dizzle88 Wife receiver ey? Knew that woman wasn't loyal Damned auto-complete.! Lol dizzle88 likes this.

05-11-2014, 09:17 PM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints continue molding secondary with Seattle blueprint \| Larry Holder Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Is he a good tackler? I haven't read that yet. let just say it pretty good but needs work. you do not need to worry about him laying anyone out.

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