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I would have fathered Yankey....hahah
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STRENGTHS: Lean, muscular frame with long arms. Demonstrates early recognition against the run, and an explosive first step downhill. Gets up to speed rapidly and has top-end speed to run down plays to the opposite side, when scraping. Extremely fluid and explosive when moving laterally, as he's able to keep his hips squared to the line of scrimmage and still cut off runs to the outside edge. Shows good gap discipline and patience to allow the play to develop before committing. Approaches blockers with aggression, demonstrating good extension and strong pop to jar his opponent and remain disengaged. Maintains an eye on the backfield while meandering through contact and takes good angles in the box to cut off running lanes. Demonstrates nimble feet to maintain footing when combatting cut-blocks. Exhibits fluid backpedal when asked to drop into coverage, and has the quick hips to turn and run with receivers and tight ends vertically. Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and shows good timing to attack the throw at the high point. Elite acceleration and second gear to chase down speedy ballcarriers, even 20-30 yards down the field. Does a good job of getting low, establishing width and wrapping up his target in the hole. Flashes some pass-rush ability from a three-point stance coming off the edge with an explosive jump and flexibility to round the corner. WEAKNESSES: Approaches blockers high at times and lacks the lower-half strength to correct, reset and hold ground. Lowers his head as a tackler in the hole and will whiff at times when he does so. Takes aggressive angles to the outside, and will find himself behind the play occasionally as a result. Tends to freeze at times when dropping into zone, as he'll lock onto the quarterback and seemingly lose awareness of what's going on around him. Will throw himself at ballcarries when in space and pursuing from off angles, seeming more concerned with the big hit than finishing the play. Despite his aggression and ability to play through contact, was not a big finisher behind the line of scrimmage while at Cal. COMPARES TO: Zaviar Gooden, Outside Linebacker, Tennessee Titans - Fortt's "plus" athleticism and sideline-to-sideline range are similar to those of Gooden, a 2013 third-round selection of the Titans. However, Fortt's ability to shed blocks and be a consistent contributor between the tackles should present him as a more versatile prospect than Gooden, who was viewed more as a run-and-hit 'backer that needed more space for his impact to be maximized. --Derek Stephens (2/12/14) Player Overview Fortt didn't have the same big-play impact at Cal that he showed while at Penn State, but there's certainly no denying his explosiveness and toughness on tape, and he has shown improvement in his all-around game. His lack of gaudy numbers may cause some NFL teams to hesitate come draft week, but his "plus" movement skills in space combined with his toughness against the run could make him a steal on the second or third day as a versatile, multi-position contributor both on defense and special teams. |
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A linebacker.... but not Christian..... AHHHHHHHH!!!!
Drugs are killing Christian, Telvin and Mettenberger |
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And there goes Pierre!!!!
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Would have liked Oline there
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Mayock was saying that Fortt's his only downfall is injuries
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STRENGTHS: Lean, muscular frame with long arms. Demonstrates early recognition against the run, and an explosive first step downhill. Gets up to speed rapidly and has top-end speed to run down plays to the opposite side, when scraping. Extremely fluid and explosive when moving laterally, as he's able to keep his hips squared to the line of scrimmage and still cut off runs to the outside edge. Shows good gap discipline and patience to allow the play to develop before committing. Approaches blockers with aggression, demonstrating good extension and strong pop to jar his opponent and remain disengaged. Maintains an eye on the backfield while meandering through contact and takes good angles in the box to cut off running lanes. Demonstrates nimble feet to maintain footing when combatting cut-blocks. Exhibits fluid backpedal when asked to drop into coverage, and has the quick hips to turn and run with receivers and tight ends vertically. Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and shows good timing to attack the throw at the high point. Elite acceleration and second gear to chase down speedy ballcarriers, even 20-30 yards down the field. Does a good job of getting low, establishing width and wrapping up his target in the hole. Flashes some pass-rush ability from a three-point stance coming off the edge with an explosive jump and flexibility to round the corner. WEAKNESSES: Approaches blockers high at times and lacks the lower-half strength to correct, reset and hold ground. Lowers his head as a tackler in the hole and will whiff at times when he does so. Takes aggressive angles to the outside, and will find himself behind the play occasionally as a result. Tends to freeze at times when dropping into zone, as he'll lock onto the quarterback and seemingly lose awareness of what's going on around him. Will throw himself at ballcarries when in space and pursuing from off angles, seeming more concerned with the big hit than finishing the play. Despite his aggression and ability to play through contact, was not a big finisher behind the line of scrimmage while at Cal. COMPARES TO: Zaviar Gooden, Outside Linebacker, Tennessee Titans - Fortt's "plus" athleticism and sideline-to-sideline range are similar to those of Gooden, a 2013 third-round selection of the Titans. However, Fortt's ability to shed blocks and be a consistent contributor between the tackles should present him as a more versatile prospect than Gooden, who was viewed more as a run-and-hit 'backer that needed more space for his impact to be maximized. --Derek Stephens (2/12/14) Player Overview Fortt didn't have the same big-play impact at Cal that he showed while at Penn State, but there's certainly no denying his explosiveness and toughness on tape, and he has shown improvement in his all-around game. His lack of gaudy numbers may cause some NFL teams to hesitate come draft week, but his "plus" movement skills in space combined with his toughness against the run could make him a steal on the second or third day as a versatile, multi-position contributor both on defense and special teams. |
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You wanted speed. You got speed.
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Huge boom or bust guy. Great potential if he can stay healthy. How can you not like that? Welcome Mr. Fortt!
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Khairi Fortt was originally a Penn St linebacker who transferred to Cal after the Paterno thing.
He has injury issues, but he's good when healthy. I like the pick |
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I like what I see and read so far.
Looks like a good fit for the SAM and/or the WILB |
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Fortt is a Special Teams pick, I'm thinking. One of the stronger LB'ers at the Combine, too.
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even got hurt at the combine, with our conditioning crew this is a BAD pick.
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How about using our extra 5th rounder to trade back into the 4th for a guy like Yankey?
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...Sat out 12, in '13, started in 9 games. Missed time at end of season with biceps injury. Nonetheless, a Butkus Award semifinalist (more) Jeff Duncan @JeffDuncan_ 59s Fortt is the 15th rated OLB by 2014 NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com . Strengths are range, pass coverage. He's essentially a poor man's Ryan Shazier. Ramon Antonio Vargas @RVargasAdvocate 2m Man, per NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League , Fortt tore his ACL in 9th grade but it wasn't an issue until his first year at Cal after transfer in '12... Not sure with this at all |
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Dont like this at all,would have taken Tripp or Jones first
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Mitch: it seems like a throw away pick when there were similar talents that could help 2014 instead of having to redshirt.
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Ramon Antonio Vargas @RVargasAdvocate 39s
To correct, K. Fortt's ligament he tore in ninth grade and didn't have surgery on until '12 reportedly was one that stabilized the patella. |
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Mitch: I am with you I trust they have done their research and I know they understand football 10 million times better than I do. It does't mean I have to like it. I still give an A+ for this draft. Fortt has major upside if he had been playing with a bad ACL.
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4th round is right. He is probably a few rounds higher without the injuries. I'll take that chance any day of the week.
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Day Three
RB WR Mike Davis Devin Street Ryan Grant Marcus Lucas(UFA) Brandon Coleman(UFA) L;Damian Washington(UDFA) Cody Hoffman(UDFA) Matt Hazell(UDFA) TE Ted Bosler(UDFA) OL Antonio Richardson Laurent Duvernay-Tardif Wesley Johnson David Yankey Cyril Richardson Dakota Dozier Tyler Larsen James Hurst Matt Patchan Anthony Steen Austin Wentworth James Stone(UDFA) Matt Armstrong(UDFA) Matt Hall(UDFA) DT/DE Daniel McCullers Ed Stinson Deandre Coleman DE/OLB James Gayle Howard Jones Larry Webster Jackson Jeffcoat Josh Mauro Ryan Carrethers Evan Gill(UDFA) OLB/ILB Christian Jones Jordan Tripp Lamin Barrow Telvin Smith Ronald Powell Shayne Skov Adrian Hubbard Max Bullough Yawin Smallwood Andrew Jackson Glenn Carson(UDFA) CB Cbmo Seisay(UDFA) S Craig Loston Lonnie Ballentine Dion Bailey Deron Furr(UDFA) LB |
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So do we finally draft O-Line in the 5th?
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Tyler Larsen?
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Sounds like a great pick with the only downside is a bit of injury history.
As someone said, if he didn't have that injury history he'd be selected much higher. |
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Falcons pick QB Savage?
Nevermind, it was the Texans, good pick for them |
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Give me a center in the fifth round. Please.
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Definitely would have preferred Jones. Bummer. Guess we'll have another C draft
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Texans take Savage
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Take James Stone in UDFA and get Goodwin back in for a one year deal if he isnt retiring.Get some depth at guard with the massive pay to Grubbs and Evans |
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Larsen is a 4th round grade. Just watched him and he is a big strong centerpiece.
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Well, this is going downhill fast.
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I like how NFL Network has Greg Schiano doing analysis. Might have been the worst talent evaluator in the NFL.
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Greater value on the board. Grubbs is overpaid. Evans had some injuries last year. The Saints have no depth on the oline. OT Richardson, OG Yankey, OG Richardson, LB's Hubbard, Jones, and Reilly all rate out better.
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Good. We actually do better after the draft anyway.
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