New Orleans Saints draft Kansas State OT Tavon Rooks in the sixth round

Barry from MS · 05-10-2014, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Catch phrase of untapped potential his whole life and has yet to live up to it

Underachiever? KSU HC Bill Snyder couldn't help him tap any of his potential for 2 years? He was a Rivals 3 star recruit out of high school, now I'm guessing a marginal 1 Star recruit coming out of college with no Combine invite. Seriously? A starting OT from a major conference and no Combine invite?

Is he gonna work his @$$ off to make an impact on the football field to improve himself? Track record screams "NOPE"...really don't like this pick now. Prove me wrong, Tavon.

TheOak · 05-12-2014, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Underachiever? KSU HC Bill Snyder couldn't help him tap any of his potential for 2 years? He was a Rivals 3 star recruit out of high school, now I'm guessing a marginal 1 Star recruit coming out of college with no Combine invite. Seriously? A starting OT from a major conference and no Combine invite?

Is he gonna work his @$$ off to make an impact on the football field to improve himself? Track record screams "NOPE"...really don't like this pick now. Prove me wrong, Tavon.

All coaches and teams are equal?

Sproles better as a Charger or Saint?
Favre better as a Falcon or Packer?
Bush?
Brees ..... Charger or Saint?
Ricky Williams?

Whole lot of whorah about how Ingram would be a better RB somewhere else but let the player be a draft pick not on someone's list and he is a career underachiever.

Maybe he was in the wrong system?

I recall some players becoming better after Spags was replaced....

Barry from MS · 05-12-2014, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

All coaches and teams are equal?

Sproles better as a Charger or Saint?
Favre better as a Falcon or Packer?
Bush?
Brees ..... Charger or Saint?
Ricky Williams?

Whole lot of whorah about how Ingram would be a better RB somewhere else but let the player be a draft pick not on someone's list and he is a career underachiever.

Maybe he was in the wrong system?

I recall some players becoming better after Spags was replaced....

No coach and/or system are equal; not the point I was laboring to make, and I wasn't upset that I had no idea who this guy was when he was picked...hell, I didn't know who Evans or Colston were in 2006, either.

And of course the argument could be that maybe KSU's offensive scheme requires their OLine to be swift but weak...he put up 21 reps on his pro day? For a lineman? You know people were telling him that he needed to get stronger to play in the NFL from the day he got to KSU up until his pro day. Point blank, he did not do what he needed to do to improve himself and was pretty flippant about not being considered a draft prospect.

If he can't get stronger and make himself better for just his own draft stock, we're going to expect him to make himself better for a 53 man TEAM? We'll soon see, but I will maintain that he doesn't have the drive to make himself better for his sake or for the team's sake.

Hope he proves me wrong and that we haven't wasted a 6th round pick on a dirt bag underachiever.

TheOak · 05-12-2014, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

No coach and/or system are equal; not the point I was laboring to make, and I wasn't upset that I had no idea who this guy was when he was picked...hell, I didn't know who Evans or Colston were in 2006, either.

And of course the argument could be that maybe KSU's offensive scheme requires their OLine to be swift but weak...he put up 21 reps on his pro day? For a lineman? You know people were telling him that he needed to get stronger to play in the NFL from the day he got to KSU up until his pro day. Point blank, he did not do what he needed to do to improve himself and was pretty flippant about not being considered a draft prospect.

If he can't get stronger and make himself better for just his own draft stock, we're going to expect him to make himself better for a 53 man TEAM? We'll soon see, but I will maintain that he doesn't have the drive to make himself better for his sake or for the team's sake.

Hope he proves me wrong and that we haven't wasted a 6th round pick on a dirt bag underachiever.

Ahhh the bench rep.... Do you understand what 21 means? You'll see why I ask below. Ever been is a bench rep contest? Know what it takes to make someone preform poorly? The common cold.

Anyway ....

Jhari Evans - Bench Press 20 reps (225)
Zack Strief - Bench Press 19 reps (225)

Euphoria · 05-13-2014, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

No coach and/or system are equal; not the point I was laboring to make, and I wasn't upset that I had no idea who this guy was when he was picked...hell, I didn't know who Evans or Colston were in 2006, either.

And of course the argument could be that maybe KSU's offensive scheme requires their OLine to be swift but weak...he put up 21 reps on his pro day? For a lineman? You know people were telling him that he needed to get stronger to play in the NFL from the day he got to KSU up until his pro day. Point blank, he did not do what he needed to do to improve himself and was pretty flippant about not being considered a draft prospect.

If he can't get stronger and make himself better for just his own draft stock, we're going to expect him to make himself better for a 53 man TEAM? We'll soon see, but I will maintain that he doesn't have the drive to make himself better for his sake or for the team's sake.

Hope he proves me wrong and that we haven't wasted a 6th round pick on a dirt bag underachiever.

Could it be he knew he wouldn't get drafted?
Hell when we all went looking for his NFL draft profile it was completely blank that was very odd.

If this guy ends up making it, it will be the upset pick of the century.

QBREES9 · 05-10-2014, 11:08 PM

May be the next Carl Nicks. Put your trust in Loomis.

SmashMouth · 05-11-2014, 05:43 AM

Tavon Rooks stunned, then excited to be drafted by New Orleans Saints in sixth round | NOLA.com

Looks like he was not worried about the draft...

hagan714 · 05-11-2014, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Tavon Rooks stunned, then excited to be drafted by New Orleans Saints in sixth round | NOLA.com

Looks like he was not worried about the draft...

There in lies the problem with the kid. attitude. i hope he get a boot in the butt by the other OL as soon as he walks in the door, skills are there to have been in the mix for top ten OT if not better, I see a kid that has gotten everything easily in life and rode his natural skill through life. well like i said i hope a light goes on with the kid. if it does he is a steal

SaintsBro · 05-12-2014, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

There in lies the problem with the kid. attitude. i hope he get a boot in the butt by the other OL as soon as he walks in the door, skills are there to have been in the mix for top ten OT if not better, I see a kid that has gotten everything easily in life and rode his natural skill through life. well like i said i hope a light goes on with the kid. if it does he is a steal

I am sure that Payton and Loomis will have a conversation with Mr. Rooks and his agent, and raise all of these valid points, and then patiently explain that in light of these facts, Rooks should be extremely grateful and blessed to receive his $420,000 league minimum rookie salary offer from the Saints, otherwise he can go back to working at Best Buy or bouncing in a strip club or whatever he was doing, anytime he likes.

In other words, a lot like Carl Nicks, this guy is going to be CHEAPER because of the baggage, discipline or motivational issues, much cheaper than a top ten OT. Which makes this a very friendly situation for paying Drew and Jimmy and our D Line as well, for the next couple of years.

exile · 05-11-2014, 08:22 AM

He rooks rike a right rackle to re.

05-10-2014, 09:07 PM	#1
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: New Orleans Saints draft Kansas State OT Tavon Rooks in the sixth round Originally Posted by hagan714 Catch phrase of untapped potential his whole life and has yet to live up to it Underachiever? KSU HC Bill Snyder couldn't help him tap any of his potential for 2 years? He was a Rivals 3 star recruit out of high school, now I'm guessing a marginal 1 Star recruit coming out of college with no Combine invite. Seriously? A starting OT from a major conference and no Combine invite? Is he gonna work his @$$ off to make an impact on the football field to improve himself? Track record screams "NOPE"...really don't like this pick now. Prove me wrong, Tavon. hagan714 likes this.

05-12-2014, 07:02 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: New Orleans Saints draft Kansas State OT Tavon Rooks in the sixth round Originally Posted by Barry from MS Underachiever? KSU HC Bill Snyder couldn't help him tap any of his potential for 2 years? He was a Rivals 3 star recruit out of high school, now I'm guessing a marginal 1 Star recruit coming out of college with no Combine invite. Seriously? A starting OT from a major conference and no Combine invite? Is he gonna work his @$$ off to make an impact on the football field to improve himself? Track record screams "NOPE"...really don't like this pick now. Prove me wrong, Tavon. All coaches and teams are equal? Sproles better as a Charger or Saint? Favre better as a Falcon or Packer? Bush? Brees ..... Charger or Saint? Ricky Williams? Whole lot of whorah about how Ingram would be a better RB somewhere else but let the player be a draft pick not on someone's list and he is a career underachiever. Maybe he was in the wrong system? I recall some players becoming better after Spags was replaced....

05-12-2014, 07:42 PM	#3
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: New Orleans Saints draft Kansas State OT Tavon Rooks in the sixth round Originally Posted by TheOak All coaches and teams are equal? Sproles better as a Charger or Saint? Favre better as a Falcon or Packer? Bush? Brees ..... Charger or Saint? Ricky Williams? Whole lot of whorah about how Ingram would be a better RB somewhere else but let the player be a draft pick not on someone's list and he is a career underachiever. Maybe he was in the wrong system? I recall some players becoming better after Spags was replaced.... No coach and/or system are equal; not the point I was laboring to make, and I wasn't upset that I had no idea who this guy was when he was picked...hell, I didn't know who Evans or Colston were in 2006, either. And of course the argument could be that maybe KSU's offensive scheme requires their OLine to be swift but weak...he put up 21 reps on his pro day? For a lineman? You know people were telling him that he needed to get stronger to play in the NFL from the day he got to KSU up until his pro day. Point blank, he did not do what he needed to do to improve himself and was pretty flippant about not being considered a draft prospect. If he can't get stronger and make himself better for just his own draft stock, we're going to expect him to make himself better for a 53 man TEAM? We'll soon see, but I will maintain that he doesn't have the drive to make himself better for his sake or for the team's sake. Hope he proves me wrong and that we haven't wasted a 6th round pick on a dirt bag underachiever.
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05-12-2014, 08:30 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: New Orleans Saints draft Kansas State OT Tavon Rooks in the sixth round Originally Posted by Barry from MS No coach and/or system are equal; not the point I was laboring to make, and I wasn't upset that I had no idea who this guy was when he was picked...hell, I didn't know who Evans or Colston were in 2006, either. And of course the argument could be that maybe KSU's offensive scheme requires their OLine to be swift but weak...he put up 21 reps on his pro day? For a lineman? You know people were telling him that he needed to get stronger to play in the NFL from the day he got to KSU up until his pro day. Point blank, he did not do what he needed to do to improve himself and was pretty flippant about not being considered a draft prospect. If he can't get stronger and make himself better for just his own draft stock, we're going to expect him to make himself better for a 53 man TEAM? We'll soon see, but I will maintain that he doesn't have the drive to make himself better for his sake or for the team's sake. Hope he proves me wrong and that we haven't wasted a 6th round pick on a dirt bag underachiever. Ahhh the bench rep.... Do you understand what 21 means? You'll see why I ask below. Ever been is a bench rep contest? Know what it takes to make someone preform poorly? The common cold. Anyway .... Jhari Evans - Bench Press 20 reps (225) Zack Strief - Bench Press 19 reps (225)

05-13-2014, 11:45 AM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: New Orleans Saints draft Kansas State OT Tavon Rooks in the sixth round Originally Posted by Barry from MS No coach and/or system are equal; not the point I was laboring to make, and I wasn't upset that I had no idea who this guy was when he was picked...hell, I didn't know who Evans or Colston were in 2006, either. And of course the argument could be that maybe KSU's offensive scheme requires their OLine to be swift but weak...he put up 21 reps on his pro day? For a lineman? You know people were telling him that he needed to get stronger to play in the NFL from the day he got to KSU up until his pro day. Point blank, he did not do what he needed to do to improve himself and was pretty flippant about not being considered a draft prospect. If he can't get stronger and make himself better for just his own draft stock, we're going to expect him to make himself better for a 53 man TEAM? We'll soon see, but I will maintain that he doesn't have the drive to make himself better for his sake or for the team's sake. Hope he proves me wrong and that we haven't wasted a 6th round pick on a dirt bag underachiever. Could it be he knew he wouldn't get drafted? Hell when we all went looking for his NFL draft profile it was completely blank that was very odd. If this guy ends up making it, it will be the upset pick of the century.

05-10-2014, 11:08 PM	#6
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05-11-2014, 05:43 AM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,022 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints draft Kansas State OT Tavon Rooks in the sixth round Tavon Rooks stunned, then excited to be drafted by New Orleans Saints in sixth round \| NOLA.com Looks like he was not worried about the draft...

05-11-2014, 08:19 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints draft Kansas State OT Tavon Rooks in the sixth round Originally Posted by SmashMouth Tavon Rooks stunned, then excited to be drafted by New Orleans Saints in sixth round \| NOLA.com Looks like he was not worried about the draft... There in lies the problem with the kid. attitude. i hope he get a boot in the butt by the other OL as soon as he walks in the door, skills are there to have been in the mix for top ten OT if not better, I see a kid that has gotten everything easily in life and rode his natural skill through life. well like i said i hope a light goes on with the kid. if it does he is a steal
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05-12-2014, 07:08 AM	#9
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints draft Kansas State OT Tavon Rooks in the sixth round Originally Posted by hagan714 There in lies the problem with the kid. attitude. i hope he get a boot in the butt by the other OL as soon as he walks in the door, skills are there to have been in the mix for top ten OT if not better, I see a kid that has gotten everything easily in life and rode his natural skill through life. well like i said i hope a light goes on with the kid. if it does he is a steal I am sure that Payton and Loomis will have a conversation with Mr. Rooks and his agent, and raise all of these valid points, and then patiently explain that in light of these facts, Rooks should be extremely grateful and blessed to receive his $420,000 league minimum rookie salary offer from the Saints, otherwise he can go back to working at Best Buy or bouncing in a strip club or whatever he was doing, anytime he likes. In other words, a lot like Carl Nicks, this guy is going to be CHEAPER because of the baggage, discipline or motivational issues, much cheaper than a top ten OT. Which makes this a very friendly situation for paying Drew and Jimmy and our D Line as well, for the next couple of years.

05-11-2014, 08:22 AM	#10
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