New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC

papz · 05-11-2014, 09:55 AM

The NFL draft has come and gone, and for the most part, give or take a late veteran addition or two, the 2014 New Orleans Saints' roster is set.

Between free agency and the draft, the Saints have added 10 players to the roster in the offseason. They'll add a dozen or so college free agents in the days ahead. They might bring back Jonathan Goodwin to compete for the club's starting center spot. But otherwise, these are your Saints. Love them or leave them, these are the Bless You Boys that will wage war on Sundays this fall.

There's little question the Saints are a better team with Champ Bailey, Jairus Byrd, Erik Lorig, Brandin Cooks and Stanley Jean-Baptiste on the roster. But the key question remains: Are they improved enough to overtake the kingpins of the NFC? Can they vault from the NFC wild card to NFC champion?

Read more: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC | Jeff Duncan | NOLA.com

All roads still lead through Seattle imo.

rezburna · 05-11-2014, 10:32 AM

QB - Saints
RB - 49ers
WR - 49ers
TE - Stalemate
T - 49ers
G - Saints
C - Stalemate

DE - Saints
NT - Saints
OLB - 49ers
ILB - 49ers
CB - Saints
S - Saints

We just barely edge them out in my opinion. Our secondary is better as well as our dline, but their linebackers are all elite.

They're wide receiver core is better then ours with the addition of Stevie Johnson to line up in the slot with Anquan Boldin and Michael Crabtree on the outside, but if Stills makes the strides I think he can and Cooks has a big impact we could definitely even things up.

Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis are what and what. Personally, I prefer Davis.

RB is a spot I could also see us being better then them at by the end of the year, and possibly tackle depending on the development of Armstead and if Strief remains consistent or improves again.

lee909 · 05-11-2014, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

QB - Saints
RB - 49ers
WR - 49ers
TE - Stalemate
T - 49ers
G - Saints
C - Stalemate

We just barely edge them out in my opinion. Our secondary is better as well as our dline, but their linebackers are all elite.

They're wide receiver core is better then ours with the addition of Stevie Johnson to line up in the slot with Amquan Boldin and Michael Crabtree on the outside, but if Stills makes the strides I think he can and Cooks has a big impact we could definitely even things up. Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis are what and what. Personally, I prefer Davis. RB is a spot I could also see us being better then them at by the end of the year, and possibly tackle depending on the development of Armstead and if Strief remains consistent or improves again.

Davis is the equal of Graham!

Ignoring Grahams rookie year every season of his three is better than Davis best year

dizzle88 · 05-11-2014, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Davis is the equal of Graham!

Ignoring Grahams rookie year every season of his three is better than Davis best year

But vernon davis can block....

rezburna · 05-11-2014, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Davis is the equal of Graham!

Ignoring Grahams rookie year every season of his three is better than Davis best year

Give Vernon Davis Drew Brees instead of Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick and I'm thinking his numbers look just like Grahams if not better. Plus you don't have to take Davis out when you want to run the ball.

TheOak · 05-11-2014, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Give Vernon Davis Drew Brees instead of Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick and I'm thinking his numbers look just like Grahams if not better. Plus you don't have to take Davis out when you want to run the ball.

But that's not how it lines up on Sunday hoss. You've got to call the game like they would line up.

Graham is better with Brees than Davis is with Kaepernick. Advantage Graham.

rezburna · 05-11-2014, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

But that's not how it lines up on Sunday hoss. You've got to call the game like they would line up.

Graham is better with Brees than Davis is with Kaepernick. Advantage Graham.

I saw Vernon Davis put the nail in the coffin on us in the playoffs. He just seems to be the better player to me. Disagreeing is cool. I just know who I'd rather have. I prefer the speed anyway.

saintsfan403 · 05-11-2014, 10:47 AM

9ers had a good draft, but they're gonna lose Aldon Smith for a while and who knows what's gonna happen with Crapernick and this sexual assault charge. I still think Seattle is the team to beat in the NFC.

rezburna · 05-11-2014, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

9ers had a good draft, but they're gonna lose Aldon Smith for a while and who knows what's gonna happen with Crapernick and this sexual assault charge. I still think Seattle is the team to beat in the NFC.

If they crack down on all that defensive holding and pass interference they do, which I actually condone, they wouldn't be the team to beat anymore.

|Mitch| · 05-11-2014, 10:56 AM

A lot of "Ifs" in this thread... If Davis had Brees; If they stop all the holding and interference...

And If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bounce his ass on the ground every time he jumped

05-11-2014, 09:55 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC The NFL draft has come and gone, and for the most part, give or take a late veteran addition or two, the 2014 New Orleans Saints' roster is set. Between free agency and the draft, the Saints have added 10 players to the roster in the offseason. They'll add a dozen or so college free agents in the days ahead. They might bring back Jonathan Goodwin to compete for the club's starting center spot. But otherwise, these are your Saints. Love them or leave them, these are the Bless You Boys that will wage war on Sundays this fall. There's little question the Saints are a better team with Champ Bailey, Jairus Byrd, Erik Lorig, Brandin Cooks and Stanley Jean-Baptiste on the roster. But the key question remains: Are they improved enough to overtake the kingpins of the NFC? Can they vault from the NFC wild card to NFC champion? Read more: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC \| Jeff Duncan \| NOLA.com All roads still lead through Seattle imo. Attached Thumbnails
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05-11-2014, 10:32 AM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC QB - Saints RB - 49ers WR - 49ers TE - Stalemate T - 49ers G - Saints C - Stalemate DE - Saints NT - Saints OLB - 49ers ILB - 49ers CB - Saints S - Saints We just barely edge them out in my opinion. Our secondary is better as well as our dline, but their linebackers are all elite. They're wide receiver core is better then ours with the addition of Stevie Johnson to line up in the slot with Anquan Boldin and Michael Crabtree on the outside, but if Stills makes the strides I think he can and Cooks has a big impact we could definitely even things up. Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis are what and what. Personally, I prefer Davis. RB is a spot I could also see us being better then them at by the end of the year, and possibly tackle depending on the development of Armstead and if Strief remains consistent or improves again.
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05-11-2014, 10:35 AM	#3
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC Originally Posted by rezburna QB - Saints RB - 49ers WR - 49ers TE - Stalemate T - 49ers G - Saints C - Stalemate We just barely edge them out in my opinion. Our secondary is better as well as our dline, but their linebackers are all elite. They're wide receiver core is better then ours with the addition of Stevie Johnson to line up in the slot with Amquan Boldin and Michael Crabtree on the outside, but if Stills makes the strides I think he can and Cooks has a big impact we could definitely even things up. Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis are what and what. Personally, I prefer Davis. RB is a spot I could also see us being better then them at by the end of the year, and possibly tackle depending on the development of Armstead and if Strief remains consistent or improves again. Davis is the equal of Graham! Ignoring Grahams rookie year every season of his three is better than Davis best year

05-11-2014, 10:41 AM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC Originally Posted by lee909 Davis is the equal of Graham! Ignoring Grahams rookie year every season of his three is better than Davis best year But vernon davis can block.... Rugby Saint II likes this.

05-11-2014, 10:42 AM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC Originally Posted by lee909 Davis is the equal of Graham! Ignoring Grahams rookie year every season of his three is better than Davis best year Give Vernon Davis Drew Brees instead of Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick and I'm thinking his numbers look just like Grahams if not better. Plus you don't have to take Davis out when you want to run the ball.

05-11-2014, 01:00 PM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat... Originally Posted by rezburna Give Vernon Davis Drew Brees instead of Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick and I'm thinking his numbers look just like Grahams if not better. Plus you don't have to take Davis out when you want to run the ball. But that's not how it lines up on Sunday hoss. You've got to call the game like they would line up. Graham is better with Brees than Davis is with Kaepernick. Advantage Graham.

05-11-2014, 07:06 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat... Originally Posted by TheOak But that's not how it lines up on Sunday hoss. You've got to call the game like they would line up. Graham is better with Brees than Davis is with Kaepernick. Advantage Graham. I saw Vernon Davis put the nail in the coffin on us in the playoffs. He just seems to be the better player to me. Disagreeing is cool. I just know who I'd rather have. I prefer the speed anyway.

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saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC 9ers had a good draft, but they're gonna lose Aldon Smith for a while and who knows what's gonna happen with Crapernick and this sexual assault charge. I still think Seattle is the team to beat in the NFC.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC Originally Posted by saintsfan403 9ers had a good draft, but they're gonna lose Aldon Smith for a while and who knows what's gonna happen with Crapernick and this sexual assault charge. I still think Seattle is the team to beat in the NFC. If they crack down on all that defensive holding and pass interference they do, which I actually condone, they wouldn't be the team to beat anymore.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: New Orleans Saints are better, but San Francisco 49ers look like team to beat in NFC A lot of "Ifs" in this thread... If Davis had Brees; If they stop all the holding and interference... And If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bounce his ass on the ground every time he jumped

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