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Suddenly we are stacked at corner.

Keenan Lewis
Corey White
Champ Bailey
Patrick Robinson
Stanley Jean-Baptiste
Rod Sweeting/Derrius Brooks/AJ Davis/Trevin Wade

Keeping in mind that we have invested significant money into the safety position and being able to play 3 safeties much of the time, it seems unlikely we keep all these guys.

Obviously Keenan is entrenched as the #1 corner. Past that, we have four guys who could realistically claim the #2 spot.

White - IMO, most of the criticism of him is complete nonsense. Once he became the starter, it took like 1 1/2 games for him to get his feet under him. After that he was everything you would expect from a good #2 corner. My guess is he is safe, if for no other reason that he's cheap. He's got to be one of the best performance/value players on the team.

Bailey - Let's be honest, we have no idea what to expect here. I could see Bailey stepping in and playing like a Hall of Famer and reviving his career just like Sharper did. But I don't think he's a lock for anything either. One of the most interesting storylines of this preseason is going to be Bailey trying to hold off all these young guys for a starting job.

Robinson - I have been one of his biggest supporters and IMO he looked like our best corner all last preseason and early in the season until he got hurt. I would really love to see him come back and be the stud I know he can be. But I also see that he's got a cap number of $2.8 million. That is almost 5 times what Corey White is making.

Jean-Baptiste - My guess is he'll be similar to Malcolm Jenkins in 2009, playing a lot of special teams and a few snaps on defense here and there. But if he surprises in preseason it'll be hard to keep him on the sidelines. A 6-foot-3 corner can come in handy with all the tall receivers in our division.

Sweeting, etc. - It is very possible that any one of these players could come out of nowhere and make the team.

Conclusion: Besides the longshots, Champ Bailey and Patrick Robinson are on the bubble. Bailey because he may not have the stuff to hang with the young cats, Robinson because he's still an uncertainty and has a high cap number. I would not even be that surprised to see Robinson cut for cap savings purposes. I could see either, or (this sounds crazy) both of these players let go before the first week of the season.

As the board's self-appointed Mr. Know-It-All when it comes to DB's, I am anxious to see how this all shakes out. Regardless, it's a far cry from a few years ago when we couldn't even find two good corners. Now we have 5.

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Keenen Lewis and Champ Bailey will be the starting bookend CBs.

White, Robinson and Jean-Baptist will nickel, dime and penny.

Past that point, we need help.

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Keenan Robinson
Bailey White
Frederick

JB-PS

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JB makes the final roster. Hello, second rounder...

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Lot's of potential there, but only one proven starter with an aging all pro. I think Bailey is going to be a pleasant surprise to many. I think White and Robinson are in because they have shown potential on the field. Baptist is raw and will get his chance\time to grow. The others are in a contest between each other an the numbers. Do we keep more because they show potential or do you keep less because none of them show what it takes? CB probably has more question marks than any other position. How many does everyone think we keep?

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Lewis is #1 with White being #2 and Bailey in the nickel. P Rob is still P Rob and as far as I can tell he isn't the answer. TC will decide. Baptiste will be on the final 53 because he would never make it past waivers. I am really excited to see what Toon does this year with hopefully enough time to heal.

There is a good chance that we keep six corners. We'll just have to wait and see.

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Im keeping an eye on Darrius Brooks.I have no idea what this kid can bring to the table in this league,but from what Ive seen of him in highlights,he looks to be very promising.

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I looked good in my highlights, it's that 10.4 forty time that did me in! They call them highlights for a reason.

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Unfortunately there is no way Stanley Jean-Baptiste makes it to the practice squad. I'll offer my opinion that Keenan, Champ, Stanley and Corey are locks. I know Patrick has alot of supporters on the board and I want him to do great, but his place on the roster in contingent on his training class performance. I stress this because you can't have a nickle or dime CB making almost $3 Mill a season. He would be traded before that happens. Just looking at it from an economics standpoint.

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I see it this way:
#1 Lewis
#2 Robinson
#3 White
#4 Bailey
#5 Sweeting
Then it get's fuzzy. Jean-Baptiste will either be #6 or on "IR" when the last cuts hit camp

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SJB makes before Sweeting that's another brainer

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Are you saying that I shouldnt assume a player has potential from his highlight plays?

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I'm saying take highlight tapes with a HUGE grain of salt, everyone looks good in them.

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I don't know if it's a brainer or not. I know that Sweeting has been training with Lewis this off-season and that many consider Jean-Baptiste to be a raw football player.

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I don't consider having a lot of cornerbacks to be the same thing as being stacked. Many of those guys are just scrap heap players, and Champ Bailey, until he proves otherwise, is just an old dude with a famous guy's name. I'm hoping that in a complimentary role Champ will prove valuable, and that might very well be the case. But again, he must prove it first. After that, it's just Keenan, the enigmatic duo of Robinson and White, and a very talented but unproven Stan Jean-Baptiste. I feel better about our corner situation, but I don't see us as being stacked at this point. If a couple guys work out, then I'd say we have a little depth, and that is good enough for me.

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Stacked?????? I would not go that far

PRob is the wild card. I he bounces back he is a pretty solid #2 opposite Lewis. Still think champ is a players coach and not much more.

As for the rest all about depth really. to be honest a bunch of nickle and dimes guys that have yet to prove there worth on the outside.

Corey White - showed last year he still has some learning to do. I love his game but he was made the fool more than once.

Rod Sweeting - is just what he is, smart keeps plays in front of him and minimizes damage and takes only calculated risk. that is what a #5 CB is suppose to do.

Stanley Jean-Baptiste - wish people would calm down about the kid. 2 years on defense and still has a lot to learn. If the football IQ is there the up side is as high as almost any CB in the draft. tell ya you are going to hate this kid in off coverage right now. man coverage only and up at the line. that in itself is a major risk. he misses the jam he is chase mode. let just admit he aint the quickest CB in the draft. that is were football IQ is key and the coaches not asking him to do to much.

Mystery Inc.
Derrius Brooks/AJ Davis/Trevin Wade


High on the wish list next year CB. next year looks to be than this year.

Need a quick twitch of the slot and maybe a CB opposite Lewis.

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Hellva good problem to have, also a lot of battles all of a sudden, makes for a better product if you ask me.

four safeties seems to be the plan... Byrd, Vaccaro, Bush... and a battle between the Canadian/and Vinny Sunnseri for that last safety position



Ditto, he got thrust into the #2 role, and performed admirably in his time there, everything with him depends on Robinson's health, and how fast SJB can transition from college wideouts to NFL ones....

What is crazy to me about the signing is you hear the name and just assume he's gonna make the team, without considering his age, the dropoff in his play, and the fact that he has to be on kind of like a pitch count now...... To me I think this is more of a brain picking situation, where they get veteran assistance for White, Robinson, SJB, if he makes the team....again you can't expect Keenan type production. This is a wait and see type of signing to me.

So much pressure on him coming off a bad injury, making to much money, spots on the line, I think we see the best of him this season, but a restructure is definitely not out of the question.

I see him not being the #2 in the beginning, I really would love it if White, or Robinson step up and win that role.... because then SJB would have no pressure to play the spot right away, and he could spot play against the bigger recievers in our division or be the Akib Talib, on TE who we come up against....

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I know that. Thats why I said I wanted to keep an eye on him. I DONT KNOW WHAT HE CAN BRING TO THE TABLE IN THIS LEAGUE,BUT HE LOOKS PROMISING. Thats different from saying that hes gonna be good because he looks good in his highlights.

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Bailey should be fine post injury. He looked before his injury. I believe he will be the #2 or #3 corner depending on how TC unfolds. He will be a great mentor for the young guns. We have a ton of potential in the secondary just waiting to be groomed.

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Haha! It's kinda like saying a player's gonna be good because he was chosen in the second round...

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after Lewis, the entire CB depth chart is a giant question mark
Literally, spots 2-6 are up for grabs; I would not be surprised by any combination or cut

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Corey White did 'okay' but his mental lapses nearly cost us two games! he intercepted kaepernick in a huge game in primetime and then fumbled through the endzone

plus add that to nearly single handedly losing the eagles playoff game for us once lewis got hurt, I think coreys still got a ways to go before he can be depended on fully

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We have a lot of bodies at CB and some are sure to be decent depth but besides Lewis and maybe White the jury is out. We don't know what Bailey has left and he could be cut in camp. Baptiste is a project and will most likely take a couple of years to come into his own. Besides that everyone else is pretty much blah. The only real starter I see is Lewis.

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Lewis, SJB, White, Sweeting. Sunseri locks down the final roster spot as a S/Slot-Nickel CB/Special teams ace. Bailey is too old and Robinson makes too much money for a backup.

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6'3" at CB...love it...hope he can play

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hey there big mike.

the kid can play but there will be growing pains along the way.

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I have no idea what people have been watching on Corey White. He isn't in any shape or form ready to be a starter @ CB in the NFL. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see him amongst the final cuts. IMHO He is Bad. He is always out of position.

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he does not belong outside at this point for sure. in the nickle or dime is were he is best at this point in time. that is were you really like his run support and open field tackling. IMO he has been pushing it and too many risks to make plays. On the outside this is really a weakness because he gave up position to many times way to easily.

IMO he seems to have a much better grasp of playing inside and has yet to learn the fine art of positioning when asked to play outside. Which is twice as important than play nickle or dime.

He may have learned a valuable lesson last year after being made a fool of more than once in Philli. Humiliation can be a great motivator.