Jack Vegas

No no no no no. Just no.

You are just flat-out incorrect here dude. I just watched that game to make sure my recollection was true.

Sweeting came in for a while at the end of the first half, but barely saw the field in the second. White was out there on his own in man coverage and did a good job. The only time he really lost his man was on a crossing pattern where he lost #13 in traffic but Lofton came up and made the play and the guy dropped the ball.

This is why I can't take Corey White's detractors seriously. None of them seem to pay any attention to the actual game.

Not trying to get personal here, I'm just saying it's hard for me to respect your opinion when you don't even know what really happened. I have watched all of these games at least 5 times over the last few weeks. I played safety in college and coached DB's as a grad assistant. I'm not exactly flying blind here.

The kid was a fine #2 corner after getting his feet under him. Don't be surprised if he keeps the job this year.

TheOak

Society puts way to much emphasis on this mythical "respect" these days. Fear of my old man is how I made it to 18 years old.. Not this mythical "respect".

Good chance White has 24 tattooed somewhere and that is why he said no.

Rugby Saint II

If it's no big deal to Bailey then it's no big deal to me.

Jack Vegas

apologies if I sounded like a know-it-all.

TheOak

You know, what you know... No apologies necessary.

Sarik

Honestly i believe corey can be a solid corner in this league...but he has some maturing to do as a player. My main issue with Corey, and its a big one, is that he consistently fails to turn his head and locate the ball. Relies too much on the receivers eyes and hands and by that time its too late. Chalk up the reception. Both plays Doug Baldwin had on him in the division round are prime examples of that. Ball is lobbed in the air by russ and corey fails to locate the ball. Otherwise the coverage was actually pretty good, im sure after observing you would agree. And cant ask him to cover the shifty guys with full trust just yet or more "big time" WR's...playoff game against the eagles can show that. Keenan goes down, so corey has to take on desean and the eagles licked their chops on that and turned the game around. Gave up two big 40 yrd plays...one being a reception then the other being PI, which was without a doubt...he just looked bad and lost out there. Not ready to be THE guy...but do i believe he can be that no.2 someday? Absolutely! I honestly feel Corey does have every tool to be a solid corner like his wingman keenan...just a matter of time before it happens. But at this point do i believe he's better than Patrick Robinson? No. Fairly even...but i MAY give pat the nod. He looked solid before he went down. Lets hope for good things this year from our group. And anything less than top 3 would leave me extremely disappointed. I expect corey and pat to make the jump and our pass D to be tops among the league.
But if that doesnt happen, it may be time to make some changes.

Jack Vegas

None of this BTW is me talking up White over Robinson. I may actually be Patrick Robinson's biggest fan on this board. In fact White's situation this offseason reminds me of the way a lot of people thought about Robinson last year.

Again corner is just one of those positions where people don't notice you unless you screw up, and it seems like no amount of great performance really changes it. I'm telling you half the people on Steelers' boards still think Keenan Lewis is a total bum because he got burned a lot there in his first couple years. Try telling them he's an elite corner right now and you'll get laughed out of the place.

Sarik

Lol i give up, u win... All im sayin is corey is not fully ready for #2, Which most would agree. And being a starter for his first time should not be an excuse for taking on a back up darius johnson, he actually lucked out that he didnt need to take on julio, roddy or even harry. Its not so much ppl remember the screw ups, its just that the good does not really outweigh the bad at all.

Dizzle said it perfectly... He screwed up his lone INT of the year badly, but thats forgiven & a rare scenario. And ppl remember the screw ups bc they end up being crucial parts of the game or huge plays...off the top of my head: desean jackson Reception/PI, doug baldwin receptions, darius, Panthers game winning TD from hixon. Id still prefer an old jabari greer, P-Rob over corey, but with that said i believe he's a great no.3 and will be the no.2 guy we all want him to be.
SJB and a healthy P-rob do not help his chances though and i think saints see SJB as their guy to pair wit keenan. They clearly covet him. But corey should go out and win the job this offseason... Or at least he better if he's that good. It should be expected if he is in fact the future like you say and we believe he could be. But if he doesnt what then?

I think everyone knows scheme and spags had something to do with the piss poor performance 2 seasons ago. I never counted p-robs performance against him for that and he looked damn solid last year before goin down.

We can both and all only hope that both these guys break out. I do think corey white is one of the underrated young corners in the league, but still has some developing. Good chat man...this stuff is healthy.

Interesting stuff my man, where did u play college ball? Thats awesome.

Jack Vegas

^ Valparaiso University. Not exactly a powerhouse and they are terrible now, but we were pretty decent then. Went 9-2 in '99, 8-4 in 2000 and won the Pioneer League in 2000 and 03.