Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
 

In 2009 the Saints rushed for 2106 yards on 468 carries. Avg of 4.5 per carry
In 2013 the Saints rushed for 1473 yards on 391 carries. Avg of 3.8 per carry.

Balanced team. JG CAN NOT BLOCK

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I would put quite a bit of money on the fact that you couldn't. Graham is not your prototypical blocking TE. His value as a playmaker FAR, FAR outweighs any perception that he can't block. I would much rather have a player that can catch over 100 passes, score over 15 TD's and receive for over 1000 yards than have an extra freaking offensive tackle. The Saints are a better team with Graham on the field than they are without him on the field. THAT is a fact.

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Your past couple posts proves that you can't help but be a ass. When looking at your posts through out the site you spend more time arguing than anything. Home life suck so you have to argue here? This is a place for Saints fans to post and LEARN from others without being spoken down to. I'm sure many other sites with love to have your asinine posts. As for this site it is full of grownups who love the Saints and want to show support for there team.

PS: Gronk can block and is a playmaker. That is what we could use. Not a show boat who is demanding Drew Brees money.

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My god! Are you for real? And exactly why do those numbers have anything to do with Jimmy Graham? The offensive line, the fullback and the offensive play calling have far more influence in the running game than a TE. You do realize that Graham was split from the shoulder of the OT around 60% of the plays, right? Didn't think so ... or if you did you didn't realize the relevance. It is pretty damned difficult for the TE to be involved in the blocking game when the coaching staff has him out in that position.

In other words, the Saints ran a totally different offence in 2009 than they did last year.

Yes, here it comes again ...

:rolleyes:

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It is spelled OFFENSE.

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I have not heard Graham demand anything. Gronk is a continuously injured player. If you had truly looked at my posts throughout the site you would know differently. But, I will argue a point with someone that I know is wrong.

;)

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Now that is sad. LOL. All is lost when pointing out a typo is your best "offense".

Yup. Here it comes again ...

:rolleyes:

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I disagree with the playmaker statement because a playmaker produces and overcomes. Grahams been shut out by corners before, where were his playmakingt abilities then. I also disagree that we are better with him on the field. He is no more than a product of Paytons system. If he leaves he could easily be replaced by a traditional TE( one that does what a TE does) and a little different playcalling we wouldn't miss a beat and would be better as a O.

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I disagree completely. He has been shutdown a couple of times by extremely physical corners that got away with more than would normally be allowed. There is not another TE in the league that could have done anything more under those circumstances. And, replacing him with a traditional TE would mean one less real threat in the passing game. Graham has led the entire league in receiving TD's over the past two seasons. That is huge!

If you truly believe we wouldn't miss a beat then you do not know football.

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Payton isn't going to lose one of his favorite chess pieces.

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In 2011 with Jimmy Graham as the starting TE, the Saints rushed for 2127 yards on 431 carries Avg. 4.9 yards per carry. That's the best year the Saints have had rushing since Payton and Drew have been here.

On top of that excellent rushing attack, Graham contributed 1310 yards and 11 touchdowns in the regular season.

That's balance.

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Last season Graham scored more touchdowns than anyone else in the NFL. If that's getting shut out too often, that's a pretty high standard.

He's gotten more yards per season and TDs per season since he became a starter than any receiver Drew has ever played with or that Payton has ever been the head coach for. If it's true that he's just a product of Payton's system, he's the best product Payton's system has produced so far.

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In the regular season game against Seattle, Graham was the only Saint that scored but it's his fault the Saints lost?

Everybody gets shut down sometime. When you lead the league in touchdowns, you're not getting shut down often?

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Jimmy Graham is the new Aaron Brooks at B&G. A good player that many argue is not that great and that the Saints would be better without him.

To be clear, the Saints actually were better without Brooks in 2006 when he was replaced by a future Hall of Famer. But... I'd better stop there before I add too much fuel to this fire.

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There is no doubt the man is a beast. The point I raise is don't over pay. We won without him before we can do it again.

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Name any player in the NFL that has owned Sherman and Talib in their own houses. If Graham could do that consistently he would be worth $15M per year while receiving for over 2000 yards and 20 TD's.

Graham is clearly one of the elite offensive threats in the entire NFL and some of you actually think the Saints would be better off without him. That is pure lunacy.

There were 52 other players on the active roster when the Saints lost to the Seahawks and you honesty place the blame on Graham?

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He will not be overpaid. As one of the top offensive threats in the game he is a bargain at $11 per year, which can easily be structured in a way to open up an additional $3-$4M in cap space for 2014.

Can the Saints win without him? Sure they can, but they are undoubtedly better with him. I want the taste of another Super Bowl win and Graham gives us a far better chance to achieve that goal.

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Graham is awesome.

Isn't worth WR money though.

Can't blame him for the Seattle game.

He will either play this year under the franchise tag of a TE or get a new contract or sit out the season. Either way, he is a Saint in 2014.

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Only one of those will happen ... he'll get a new contract. There is zero percent chance that will not happen.

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If it wasn't for the salary cap, no one would be arguing that the Saints would be better off without Graham.

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The salary cap isn't really even an issue. It is projected to go up by around $10M each of the next two years.

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The top 5 WR's get shut down by Talib and Sherman.

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Jimmy should watch some Gonzalez tapes and the way he makes catches. Defender makes the tackle but the ball is already caught. He always extends his arms and doesn't wait for ball to hit him in the chest. I hope he improves in that segment. Then we can talk about unstoppable Jimmy worth the big time money.

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People need to stop reading Yardbarker, Bleacher Report, etc. Read the T-P, or the Advocate, or the Lake Charles American Press for all I care. They all have websites and writers who at least have an average understanding of what they're writing about. Thank you in advance.

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"Look at our numbers over the last eight years," he said. "We've had a lot of different guys in there. Jimmy's only been here four years. He's only been here half the time. We were putting up some pretty big numbers before he got here, and we've been putting up some big numbers since he's been here.
"Hey, we do what we do. It's nice when you can have guys like Jimmy, and obviously he's a big part of our offense. If he's in there, we're going to try to get him the ball. We're game-planning ways to get him the ball, ways to put him in the best position to succeed. But if he's not, somebody else is going to get those touches. We'll put those guys in position."

To sum it up: "Get yourself back or I'll make some other TE a superstar"

Drew Brees ready to go with or without Jimmy Graham